Bulletins


BulletinBulletin dateReplacement BulletinItem no.SummaryAdded
SUSPENSION - FRONT - WHEEL BEARING
061290616210020174Front wheel bearings - noise. *tt updated on 02-27-07. *kb08/03/2006
SUSPENSION - REAR
077210022283Rear of vehicle is too high/low -5th wheel and goose neck applications. *kb07/25/2007

Investigations


NHTSA IDManufacturerDate openDate closeSubjectRecall campaign
SUSPENSION
EA08007FORD MOTOR COMPANY03/14/200803/31/2009VIOLENT FRONT END OSCILLATION
 This investigation was opened based on 78 consumer complaints of severe suspension and steering wheel oscillations after the subject vehicles traveled over an uneven surface.odi was concerned about these complaints because many of them alleged loss of control and the loss of control occurredat speeds above 50 miles per hour.at the time these complaints were received, odi was also aware of the tsb 07-10-10 and early warning field reports that discussed the shimmy condition on the subject vehicles.since opening this investigation, odi has confirmed, based on consumer complaints, warranty data, testing conducted by vrtc, and odi inspection of complaint vehicles, that the owners of the subject vehicles are experiencing shimmy events on their vehicles.however, odi has also confirmed that owners typically do not maintain their tires at the pressures recommended by ford on the tire label.further, odi has found that in order for shimmy to occur, tire pressures must be substantially below (at least 20%) those specified on the vehicle tire label.odi considers these unsafe tire conditions to be the result of one of three typical situations.the tires are being improperly maintained, the owners are intentionally setting the tire pressures low to enhance ride quality, or aftermarket tires (not designed for use on the vehicle) are installed to change the appearance or function of the vehicle.the subject vehicles are intended and designed to be used as heavy duty vehicles and as such require that the tires be capable of handling the loads for which the vehicle is designed and marketed.in order for the tires to be capable of handling these loads, the proper tire pressure must be maintained.in light of the information gathered in this investigation and ford's agreement to notify subject vehicle owners (now and every two years until the vehicles reach ten years from their production date) about the importance of maintaining proper tire pressures on their vehicles, further use of agency resources does not appear to be warranted.the closing of this investigation does not constitute a finding by nhtsa that no safety-related defect exists.the agency reserves the right to take further action if warranted by the circumstances.for additional information, see the attached closing report.
PE07057FORD MOTOR COMPANY11/15/200703/14/2008VIOLENT FRONT END OSCILLATION
 Odi has received 78 consumer complaints of severe suspension and steering wheel shimmy and oscillations commencing after the subject vehicles traveled over an uneven road surface. the majority of these incidents occurred at speeds of 50 mph or greater.thirteen of the complaints received by odi allege loss of steering control and that the vehicle changed driving lanes uncontrollably.four of the complaints received by odi allege that the vehicle left the road surface as a result of the violent suspension and steering wheel oscillations.in one case the consumer alleges that after the vehicle left the road surface, it crashed into a wooded area.additionalfactors contributing to the opening of this ea were early warning field reports,submitted by ford, describing suspension shimmy / oscillationsand a ford tsb (07-10-10) describing the suspension shimmy issue and how to repair the problem.ford has described shimmy as self-excited oscillation of the steering wheels with accompanying wheel tramp.this pe has been upgraded to an engineering analysis (ea) to determine if the shimmy condition that occurs on the subject vehicles creates a condition where the vehicle becomes difficult to control or startles the driver, thus presenting a safety risk.
SUSPENSION - FRONT
EA08007FORD MOTOR COMPANY03/14/200803/31/2009VIOLENT FRONT END OSCILLATION
 This investigation was opened based on 78 consumer complaints of severe suspension and steering wheel oscillations after the subject vehicles traveled over an uneven surface.odi was concerned about these complaints because many of them alleged loss of control and the loss of control occurredat speeds above 50 miles per hour.at the time these complaints were received, odi was also aware of the tsb 07-10-10 and early warning field reports that discussed the shimmy condition on the subject vehicles.since opening this investigation, odi has confirmed, based on consumer complaints, warranty data, testing conducted by vrtc, and odi inspection of complaint vehicles, that the owners of the subject vehicles are experiencing shimmy events on their vehicles.however, odi has also confirmed that owners typically do not maintain their tires at the pressures recommended by ford on the tire label.further, odi has found that in order for shimmy to occur, tire pressures must be substantially below (at least 20%) those specified on the vehicle tire label.odi considers these unsafe tire conditions to be the result of one of three typical situations.the tires are being improperly maintained, the owners are intentionally setting the tire pressures low to enhance ride quality, or aftermarket tires (not designed for use on the vehicle) are installed to change the appearance or function of the vehicle.the subject vehicles are intended and designed to be used as heavy duty vehicles and as such require that the tires be capable of handling the loads for which the vehicle is designed and marketed.in order for the tires to be capable of handling these loads, the proper tire pressure must be maintained.in light of the information gathered in this investigation and ford's agreement to notify subject vehicle owners (now and every two years until the vehicles reach ten years from their production date) about the importance of maintaining proper tire pressures on their vehicles, further use of agency resources does not appear to be warranted.the closing of this investigation does not constitute a finding by nhtsa that no safety-related defect exists.the agency reserves the right to take further action if warranted by the circumstances.for additional information, see the attached closing report.
PE07057FORD MOTOR COMPANY11/15/200703/14/2008VIOLENT FRONT END OSCILLATION
 Odi has received 78 consumer complaints of severe suspension and steering wheel shimmy and oscillations commencing after the subject vehicles traveled over an uneven road surface. the majority of these incidents occurred at speeds of 50 mph or greater.thirteen of the complaints received by odi allege loss of steering control and that the vehicle changed driving lanes uncontrollably.four of the complaints received by odi allege that the vehicle left the road surface as a result of the violent suspension and steering wheel oscillations.in one case the consumer alleges that after the vehicle left the road surface, it crashed into a wooded area.additionalfactors contributing to the opening of this ea were early warning field reports,submitted by ford, describing suspension shimmy / oscillationsand a ford tsb (07-10-10) describing the suspension shimmy issue and how to repair the problem.ford has described shimmy as self-excited oscillation of the steering wheels with accompanying wheel tramp.this pe has been upgraded to an engineering analysis (ea) to determine if the shimmy condition that occurs on the subject vehicles creates a condition where the vehicle becomes difficult to control or startles the driver, thus presenting a safety risk.

Consumer Complaints


Fail datemilesoccurencesPurchase date
SUSPENSION
06/22/2012165700
 I was traveling north on i59 through meridian mississippi at approximately 8:00 pm yesterday on 06/22/2012. i came across an overpass at about 70 mph when the rough surface of the bridge caused the truck to shake very violently in the front end. i immediately tried to control/correct it by holding the steering wheel firmly and braking. it started to subside and then started again. i held the steering wheel straight and firm, and braked harder until the shaking stopped. i had slowed to approximately 40 to 50 mph before it had stopped. this all took place in matter of seconds. though frustrated because i had just purchased the truck earlier on this day, i feel fortunate that it happened with little traffic. i had recently crossed over lake pontchartrain bridge in louisiana just hours earlier.
08/08/200830000
 The vehiche when traveling at highway speeds in excess of 55 mph when hitting a bump begins to shake which grows to a voilent shaking. in order to stop this shaking the vehicle must be slowed under 25 mph. this has happened on numerous occasions between the date above and today. repeated service visits to a local ford dealership service center have been unable to correct the problem.
08/06/2009260001
 2006 ford f-350 super duty dual axle. vehicle suffers severe, violent, and uncontrollable shimmy / vibrations when crossing uneven pavement. most notably when doing so while in a left angled turn. must apply immediate heavy breaking to below 20 mph to get the uncontrollable vibration to stop. have nearly been rear-ended on numerous occasions due to this issue. tires are properly inflated and vehicle suspension is completely factory stock. this is a very dangerous situation and has been occurring since purchase nearly two years ago. *tr
01/11/2009310001
 I have a 2006 ford f350 crewcab superduty that has a shimmy / vibration in cab of truck which happens when i hit a dip or bump and if i slow down sometimes it goes away quickly when i slow down and sometimes i have slow down below 30mph. how safe is that on an interstate? i did receive a letter from ford saying this common but i disagree because this is my third superduty and the last two i did not experience this problem but they had diesel engines this is gas. my dealership told ford customer rep that i need a road worthy test or the drive shaft is out of balance so they are guessing too. the dealership did not even know about this letter that ford sent to superduty owners. ford rep stated there is no recall on this vehicle. the service manager at the local dealership believes the problem is because a gas engine is too light and the superdutys were made for diesel engines. i have no idea how true this is but my first two superduty trucks i had were diesel and i did not experience this. i have drafted up a letter to send to nys attorney general and to ford but i am not very confident about the end results. my warranty has run out and now it is on my nickel. i even put new e rated tires on the truck in december and has been at the dealership twice which they said the tires were out of balance and needed to be rotated. i have less than 3,000 miles on these tires so that did not make any sense. as of this date the tires have been balanced a total of three times which absolutely no sense either. i am going to get a second opinion from my mechanic that i have been using for over 20 years which is not a ford dealership to see if the problem can be resolved since i am not getting much help from ford or the dealership. this shimmy / vibration does get me nervous at times and do not feel i am very safe in keeping this big pickup under control and i do not exceed the speed limit more than 5 mph. i have been a ford person for over thirty years and now i may have to change. *tr
12/26/2008270001
 Steering/suspension oscillates or going into a harmonic bouncing after encountering a bump in the road. usually around 65 mph. slowing down will stop the harmonic bouncing. it has occurred about 8 times while i had owned the vehicle the latest being 12/26/08. i purchased the vehicle new in dec. 2006. as of 1/2009 the vehicle has 27,000 miles on it. scares the daylights out of me when it happens. no repair/correcting actions have been taken at this time. *tr
12/16/2008256481
 2006 ford f-350 has death wobble and is unsafe for driving!!!! *tr
08/01/2008301001
 Traveling @55 mph, when i ran over a small pot hole. my truck shook violently and was extremely difficult to control and stay in the lane of traffic and slow down to a speed wherein i could bring my vehicle under control ( 35 mph). visual inspection showed no anomalies. my tires did not appear to be damaged as if i had run over an object. there were no objects in the highway. approximately 60 minutes later, after i finished my errand and was returning home, another incident occurred. this as more violent erratic front end jumping and i had to move to two lanes to stop my vehicle. again, inspection showed nothing out of the ordinary. i then proceeded directly to my ford dealership where i spoke with a service person. i requested that my vehicle be placed on a lift to get a complete inspection. the manager refused to do this stating that this was a continental tire problem because of stiff sidewallsand that i should return in a few days for an inspection at that time and they would place a steering damper on my truck ( of which i might be financially responsible and that may or may not correct the problem. i feel this is an extremely dangerous situation, one in which i am very fortunate not be hurt, my vehicle damaged, or someone else injured. my dealership is pooh-poohing it as if it is nothing. *tr
03/13/2008140001
 While driving on the freeway and on two lane roads, and after hitting a pothole on one side of the vehicle, the truck started shaking uncontrollably. in order to stop shaking vehicle was pulled over to the shoulder and brought to a stop. *tr
06/01/2007300001
 I have a 2006 f350 that has what has been referred to as the deaf wobble. mostly when i drive between 40 - 55 if the truck comes across a small bump or uneven road the front wheels / steering wheel shakes back and forth out of control. the only way i found it to stop it is to hit the brakes and slow down until it stops and then you can try it again until the wobble comes back. also this truck is completely stock not after market parts have been added, no lifts etc. *tr
03/20/2008510010/26/2005
 My vehicle has suspension oscillations that can lead to an accident, ford has tried 7 times to fix it and now tells me that they can't fix it and it is a normal characteristic of the truck after 35+ days out of service. these oscillations could lead to loss of control and a crash. this truck is a danger to me and my family. it is a 2006 f350. it has had said oscillations since new, and they seem to be getting worse, and i am concerned for my safety. there are daily incidents of this oscillation/bouncing while driving, and ford now tells me they wont work on the problem any more. *tr
02/10/2007108/25/2006
 I have a 2006 ford f-350 4x4. i am having some serious issues with the front end of my truck shaking very badly every time i go over a highway bridge with uneven pavement, uneven pavement, dips or shallow holes on highways. going over railroad tracks on highway routes with speed limits of 55 mph, i have to slow to at least 30 mph because my front wheels start shaking so bad i cannot control the truck. my truck is used strictly for onroad driving and kept in excellent condition and serviced on a regular basis. i feel that my day to day driving have not contributed to this condition and feel it could be some sort of a defect in my 2006 f-350. this has been occurring on a regular basic since my purchase of the truck 13 months ago. i have had the tires rotated a number of time and was recently told that my tire rods need to be replaces. a ford service agent told me it was no reason why my tire rods would go bad so quick for normal highway driving. *tr
02/25/2006100102/03/2006
 New 2006 ford 3500 super duty has had a vibration since i bought it and it is more of a buck and jerk when in tow/haul mode with trailer. *nm
SUSPENSION - FRONT
07/17/201125000
 This has happened several times when the truck is traveling along a road or highway. your drive turns into a death wobble. the truck is uncontrollable and jumps lanes and is all over the road. this is a danger that has been presented to ford by many and it is just being ignored. this is a true danger and may not only kill the driver and passengers but anyone driving down the road. it's all over the internet and happening all over the country. this is being swept under the carpet, just as the pinto was, with many deaths. you as the safety board need to step up and do something so consumers can drive the vehicles that they have purchased, for many over $55,000.
01/23/201182356
 2006 ford f350 sd 4x4 front end aligned less than 1 month prior with all tire pressure checked and corrected. driving in dry conditions approaching an overpass on a curve, front of overpass bridge surface is bumpy and rough, speed 45-50 mph. hit rough surface and front end started to shake uncontrollably!!!! had to hit brakes and swear to shoulder to keep from going off overpass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10/22/201092000
 I have a 2006 ford f350 4 wheel drive single wheel long bed king ranch. i will be driving down the road or interstate anywhere between 30 and 80 miles an hour, and if you hit the smallest imperfections in the road the truck will start shaking violently, uncontrollable, the steering wheel moves about 14 inches side ti side so fast and hard, that it takes ill ive got to hold on to the wheel. you can hear the tires chirp side to side on the pavement it wobbles so severly. ive replaced the steering dampner, the power steering pump, had it aligned 4 times, brand new tires, i have adjusted the castor accordingly to fords tsb forum, had my rotors turned, and wheels and tires balanced so many times. its so bad, it shakes the stuff in the bed of my truck onto the highway. my truck only has 92,000 miles on it. im afraid to drive it. all i know is that i didnt pay 64,000 dollars for a truck that i cant drive. i will spend the money to fix it, but ford says its a normal condition.
09/15/200790000
 Tl-the contact owns a 2006 ford 350sd. while driving and there is a bump or pothole in the road the front end would shimmy. the dealer was contacted who stated the front end dampener needed to be replaced. the contact stated he replaced the problem himself. the dealer informed him to bring the vehicle in for inspection and run a diagnostic test. the contact did not take the vehicle in to the dealer. the manufacturer was not notified. the failure mileage was 90,000....mw
11/24/20091090004
 While driving along the hwy at approx 65mph i ran across a patch of uneven road at which caused my 2006 f350 4x4 steering to shake violently i had to carefully pull over to the shoulder which was no small task as there was a lot of traffic the shaking would not stop until i was almost stopped this happened 4 times on different roads . the vehicle is stock not lifted and has oem tires. i am trying to find a fix but i am finding out this is a common problem for ford and they are unwilling to help fix. *tr
11/10/2009410001
 Vehicle control compromised when incurring sharp changes in road surface (potholes, expansion joints, etc). *tr
10/13/2009620001
 Excessive front end shimmy on occasion with my ford f350 4x4. i have received a letter from ford discussing this issue. the first time the problem occurred, my tire pressure was low and subsequently maintaining proper tire pressure seemed to prevent the problem for a while. however, recently i hit some bumps while traveling on the highway at a speed of approximately 65 mph and the front end began to shimmy very violently. i knew to hit the brakes to regain control of the steering, but i had to stay on my brakes until i slowed to approximately 40 mph before i could regain control of the steering wheel. i called a local ford service center, but they said they would only be guessing at the proper way to fix the problem. i then called ford customer service to discuss the issue, as i am nervous about riding on the highway with the vehicle. they suggested that i call several service centers until i find one that has experience with trying to fix this particular problem. i have done that and i have found that none of the local dealers know how to correct the problem. this shimmy problem is occurring more and more often and i am convinced that it will eventually result in an accident on the highway. *tr
08/25/2009670391
 I own a 2006 ford f-350 4x4 short bed crew cab pickup truck. i am the original owner and no modifications have ever been made. i have kept the vehicle in good mechanical shape, kept the tires inflated to recommended levels, and kept the tires balanced and rotated. the vehicle has always experienced a severe steering oscillation whenever the vehicle is traveling over 50 mph and hits a small bump on the highway. the oscillation is most severe if the bump is hit while in a left turn. when this occurs, i break until speed is reduced to about 30 mph to 40 mph and the oscillation stops. when this oscillation occurs, the vehicle has limited steering control. it generally travels in a straight direction but does not respond well to steering wheel input until the oscillation is dampened. the vehicle is difficult and in some cases impossible to control. this oscillation has occurred numerous times. in the case today, this oscillation was so severe that it has caused the vehicle to swerve into the opposing traffic lane. i nearly had a head on collision, the opposing vehicle moved over to the shoulder to allow me to pass. these oscillations have occurred with both the original continental lt275/70r18 tires and also the replacement michelin lt275/70r18 tires. tires pressures have been maintained at 65 psi front and 75 psi rear as recommended by the owner's manual. *tr
08/13/2009650001
 2006 ford f-350 sd 2wd has a violent front end shimmy that has been caused by the smallest imperfection in the highway. at speeds of 50mph+ the shaking is so intense that it causes swerving and you must come to a near complete stop before the shaking will cease. since it happens on the freeway, we have nearly been rear ended and have swerved into other lanes. this is a safety concern for all passengers in the vehicle. it can occur once every other day or four times in 20miles. *tr
06/11/2009153011
 I own an 06' ford f350 sd. i first noticed an extreme tire shimmy/bounce at around 15,000 mi, when a pot hole, bridge expansion or rough road is encountered. the truck now has 105,000 mi. and the problem has become some extreme that i believe it is too dangerous to drive until the problem is remedied. the bouncing is so extreme that control of the truck is nearly lost. ford has sent me a letter claiming improper tire pressure is the problem, i have adjusted but to no help. the truck shimmys/ shakes uncontrollably, at every bump encountered. this is an extremely dangerous situation which is wide spread among sd owners according to postings on the web. please help! *tr
02/17/2007180001
 I am disappointed in the findings on the f-350 superduty front suspension shimmy as it is called. i have a 06 f-350 sd with only 54,000 miles on it. the front end has been completely replaced twice and needs it again but ford will not warranty it because of the factory warranty expiring. this severe shimmy is real and to allow a finding that states the tire pressure is to blame is completely false and so stunning. does the odi really expect the vehicle owners to buy this. looks like ford had its hand in this one again. i want my truck fixed and i will not pay for it. ford knows this problem exist but is not large enough yet to recall. will someone die first? my truck is that severe it will leave the road if your not expecting it. the tire pressure is correct and no suspension modifications. i have had this front end completely rebuilt twice every year so far since purchase and as of march of this year it needs it again. they wanted to charge me $1400.00 to fix it even though it has really never been fixed from the initial repair. please come take a ride and check my tire pressure you will be completely scared before we are done. *tr
04/08/2009750001
 Excessive front end shimmy/wobble. *tr
02/15/2009240001
 I purchased my 2006 superduty new in june 2006 when the truck was new i had some shaking in the front end at speeds over 65 but recently it has got much worse. this has occurred at least ten times now and the last few times on the interstate when going around 70 mph if you hit rough spots it will start a violent shake if i slowly reduce speed it will stop around 45 mph. i am starting to think it is not even safe enough for my family to ride in the truck anymore. my dealer says they don't see any problems so i have not been able to get anything done to resolve this problem even though the truck has less than 36,000 and is still under bumper to bumper warranty till june of this year. i have had many fords over the past 8 years and i would like to think that ford will take care of this if they want to keep me as a loyal customer. i don't think i should be responsible to pay for fords design flaws out of my pocket (if there even is a way to fix it). if ford will not do something to permanently fix the problem my wife and i will no longer buy from them. *tr
02/08/2009320001
 I have a 2006 ford f-350 pickup and when you hit a bump when bend in road at highway speeds the front end of the truck goes into a death wobble with the front suspension. this happens very routinely and seems to be getting worse. truck is even a hand full to control at highway speeds at 65 mph going down a straight away with bumpy surface. *tr
10/10/2008285261
 Violent front end shaking at 65 mph when vehicle hits uneven or variation in highway. vehicle must be slowed or stopped to reduce or stop shaking. shaking was so severe that vehicle steering was uncontrollable. it feels like the vehicle is going to loose control and flip. vehicle is totally stock from ford. vehicle has been serviced at ford. comment on cause was something was loose in the front end? shaking stopped for a while and then returned. *tr
10/17/2006181
 I have a 2006 f 350 with 28,000 miles on it .when i hit potholes or rough road the truck shakes {shimmies ] violently when speeds at 55 mph i must slow down to 25/30 mph on the freeway this is dangerous i went to the dealer they said it was tire pressure in side driverside door says 75 psi that's what im running .the problem still happens. *tr
07/15/2007260001
 Driving down the highway a year and a half ago when i hit an uneven patch of pavement. my truck vibrated like it was going to fall apart. i thought i'd blown out a tired. i got out and everything was fine. i drove around for another couple of days (below 50 mph) until i had the need to get on the freeway. got up to speed 75 and hit an uneven surface, causing my truck to vibrate again very frightening.... took the truck into the dealership where they installed dual steering stabilizers. everything worked ok until last week. i noticed that now my truck catches when i turn right, and is difficult to steer. i noticed left stabilizer is worn out, i replaced it tonight. this did not fix the issue. i'm taking it back to the dealer and i would guess there is going to be a major front end issue. i hope the death wobble didn't screw up my truck. *tr
08/18/2008500001
 I have a ford f-350 that has had a violent front end shake at freeway speeds. the shake has been so violent i thought i was going to crash. i have taken it to ford and they change out a couple parts and then it happens again within 20,000 miles. this has happened 4 times since owning the truck (purchased new in nov. 2006). i have also had problems repeatedly with the high pressure oil pump and or electrical that ford cant resolve. the truck is now in the shop again. it cranks but will not start the truck was going down the freeway at 70mph and it just dies and wont restart. they say it is high pressure oil pump and have replaced it 3 times within 50,000 miles. *tr
05/06/2008160001
 We have 2 2006 ford f-250 super duty crew cab v10s. both exhibit a shimmy/wobble in the front end when hitting a pothole with the driver's side front tire that requires us to slow down until it goes away in order to retain control of the vehicle. *tr
05/03/2007219771
 Tl*the contact owns a 2006 ford f-350 sd. while driving 50 mph, the front end of the vehicle begins to jump and bounce back and forth. the failure usually occurs from a bridge to pavement, from pavement to a bridge, on uneven pavement, or in various other driving conditions. the dealer could not duplicate the failure. the purchase date was unknown. the current mileage was 44,000 and failure mileage was 21,977.
SUSPENSION - FRONT - CONTROL ARM - LOWER BALL JOINT
11/22/2007276501
 Truck started to gradually pull to the right when driving, after a couple of weeks took truck for alignment and was told that upper and lower ball joints on right side front knuckle needed replacing. took car to ford dealer and ball joints were replaced under warranty. right front tire got worn on right edge and dealer said that the tire was not the responsibility of ford eventhough the failure of the ball joints caused the tire to wear out unevenly. *tr
SUSPENSION - FRONT - CONTROL ARM - UPPER BALL JOINT
11/22/2007276501
 Truck started to gradually pull to the right when driving, after a couple of weeks took truck for alignment and was told that upper and lower ball joints on right side front knuckle needed replacing. took car to ford dealer and ball joints were replaced under warranty. right front tire got worn on right edge and dealer said that the tire was not the responsibility of ford eventhough the failure of the ball joints caused the tire to wear out unevenly. *tr
SUSPENSION - FRONT - STABILIZER BAR
09/15/200865000
 Tl*the contact owns a 2006 ford f-350 sd. while driving approximately 65 mph, the steering vibrated and wobbled excessively. in addition, the front end of the vehicle began to shimmy. there were no warning indicators illuminated on the instrument panel. immediately, the driver pulled the vehicle over. she drove to an authorized dealer, but they could not duplicate the failures. the vehicle was taken back to an authorized dealer and an independent mechanic on separate occasions for identical failures, but there were no resolutions. currently, the authorized dealer is replacing the steering stabilizer shock and drag link. the vin was unable to be entered into the system. the failure mileage was 65,000 and current mileage was 87,000.