Bulletins
| Bulletin | Bulletin date | Replacement Bulletin | Item no. | Summary | Added |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SEATS | |||||
| 02010 | 06/25/2002 | 02010 | 633602 | Service information regarding loose or detached seat back panel. *tt | 09/23/2002 |
| A020013 | 03/22/2002 | 631777 | Information regarding seat back panel repair kit. *slc | 06/20/2002 | |
| 000101 | 01/01/2000 | 610336 | Information on the rear seat access function on the front passenger's seat. *tt | 04/25/2000 | |
| SEATS - FRONT ASSEMBLY - POWER ADJUST | |||||
| 03034 | 09/02/2003 | 03034 | 10004694 | The height adjustment linkage of the 8-way power driver's seat can cause excessive looseness in the seat-back and the seat cushion - product update. *tt | 12/31/2003 |
| 03034 | 06/19/2003 | 10002101 | The height adjustment linkage of the 8-way power driver's seat can cause excessive looseness in the seat-back and the seat cushion - product update. *tt | 08/13/2003 | |
| 030013 | 06/24/2003 | 10002102 | The height adjustment linkage of the 8-way power driver's seat can cause excessive looseness in the seat-back and seat cushion - parts information bulletin. *tt | 08/13/2003 | |
Investigations
| NHTSA ID | Manufacturer | Date open | Date close | Subject | Recall campaign | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SEATS | ||||||
| PE02072 | HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.) | 10/02/2002 | 03/28/2003 | SEAT FRAME BRACKET FAILURE | ||
| This pe was opened based on 10 consumer complaints in the odi database alleging that the power assisted seats were failing in certain 1998-2002 honda accord vehicles.failures are concentrated in the 1998-99 model year vehicles.the bracket that attaches the seat bottom to the seat base is fracturing due to: 1-the weld condition of bracket, 2-the drivers weight, and 3-the impact on the seat when the driver enters the vehicle and sits down.over time the bracket that attaches the seat may fail at the left front corner of the seat bottom.the other 3 points of attachment of the seat bottom to the seat base stay attached and the seat movement is limited.the attachment of the seat bottom to the seat back does not fail.the condition is most apparent during rapid acceleration causing the seat to tilt rearward.although a few complaints report concern over loss of vehicle control, no loss of control incidents, crashes or injuries are reported.in response to customer complaints, honda will provide owners of 1998 and some 1999 accords a no-cost reinforcement for the seat at the left front corner.a safety-related defect has not been identified at this time and further use of agency resources does not appear to be warranted.accordingly, this investigation is closed.the closing of this investigation does not constitute a finding by nhtsa that a safety-related defect does not exist.the agency will take further action if warranted by the circumstances. | ||||||
Consumer Complaints
| Fail date | miles | occurences | Purchase date |
|---|---|---|---|
| SEATS | |||
| 02/01/2011 | 118000 | ||
| Driver's seat of my '99 honda accord has become loose, rocks and pulls away from steering wheel upon acceleration, causing lack of control since momentum pulls driver away from wheel. when seat is not occupied, this is evident by pushing on headrest, causing seat to 'rock' backwards approx 6. mechanic said that a piece of steel on the bracket under the seat is broken (& seat bracket is the same for all 1998-2002 models). dealer said this isn't a recall or anything so repairs would be at my expense. car cannot pass state inspection until this is fixed, so looks like i now have no choice but to try & locate a replacement bracket at a junkyard & pay someone to install, costing me at least $300 (with no guarantee that the replacement bracket will not have the same problem). big safety issue here with lots of complaints reporting the same problem (per online search)- why has this not been properly addressed? | |||
| 09/29/2010 | 150000 | ||
| My power assisted driver's seat bracket that attaches the seat bottom to the seat base has fractured because of the weld condition of bracket. my seat weld at the left front corner of the seat bottom now causes the seat to rock with no stability. the honda dealership will not honor the pe02072 stating that my vin no. is not in the range and that the time period has expired. this is a dangerous weld failure that odi should hold honda accountable. | |||
| 01/15/2010 | 129900 | ||
| 1999 honda accord: the bracket that attaches the driver seat bottom to the seat base at the front left corner is fractured due to the weld condition of bracket, this causes th seat to wobble and i grip the steering wheel as a support when seat position shifts. | |||
| 11/19/2009 | 128000 | 1 | |
| The seat bracket on my 1999 honda accord broke as described in nhtsa action number pe02072. honda refused to repair the seat and denied that there was ever a manufacture defect. *tr | |||
| 04/10/2009 | 125000 | 1 | |
| 1) i tried to sit in my front seat 2) the front seat (driver) came off its track. this is an electric seat. 3) i am running down a replacement now. *tr | |||
| 07/28/2008 | 112472 | 1 | |
| Tl*the contact owns a 1999 honda accord. the contact stated that the driver seat in his vehicle became separated from the frame. the failure occurred while the contact was driving approximately 20 mph. he took the vehicle to the dealer and they stated that the seat detached from the bracket. he was informed that his vin was not included in a similar product update. the current and failure mileages were 112,472. updated 10/07/08. *lj the transmission wasn't shifting properly. updated 10/08/08. *jb | |||
| 01/02/2008 | 120000 | 1 | |
| 1999 honda accord drivers seat has developed excessive looseness (rocking motion). honda of america issued a product update in 2003 , but is unwilling to repair problems that arose after 2005. *tr | |||
| 05/13/2008 | 130000 | 1 | |
| Tl*the contact owns a 1999 honda accord. while entering the vehicle, the driver's side power assisted seat tilted backwards. the contact called the dealer and manufacturer in reference to action number pe02072. a representative stated that they would reserve their right to provide a free remedy until after the vehicle was inspected by a technician. the contact is in the process of having the vehicle repaired. the failure and current mileages were 130,000. updated 06/25/08*cn the dealer stated the slider assembly needed to be repalced as the broken bracket was integral with it and could not be repaired. the consumer stated when he stepped on the accelerator, the seat lurched backwards. updated 06/25/08 | |||
| 09/03/2006 | 82970 | 1 | 10/20/1998 |
| Dt*: the contact stated a piece of metal detached from the slider of the driver seat, causing free movement of the seat. the manufacturer was notified, who instructed the contact to take the vehicle to a service dealer. the vehicle was not taken in for service. | |||
| 08/23/2006 | 150000 | 1 | 01/01/1999 |
| Dt*: the contact stated where the seat attaches to the frame, the seat was only held on by a spot-weld. under normal wear and tear, the spot weld breaks lose causing the seat to rock back and forth. the driver's side power seat rocks back and forth about 6-8 inches. the dealership has been made aware of the problem. | |||
| 06/01/2001 | 3 | 05/01/1999 | |
| While driving at any speed, the driver's seat moved. the vehicle has been taken to the dealer twice, but the problem continued. *ak a part was added to remedy the problem but did not resolve the problem. the part was added twice and worked neither time. at times when the consumer was coming to a stop, the seat would jerk forward and back. *sc *jb | |||
| 05/23/2003 | 1 | ||
| Seat frame bracket failure on power assisted driver's seat. the left front corner of of the seat bottom bracket failed, and appear to be due to the weld condition of the bracket. under acceleration the silt tilts backwards. can't believe the nhtsa just closed an investigation on 3/2003 this issue and decided it did not warrant the use of agency resources, i weigh 190 pounds, and do not jump into and out of my seat, it is clearly a manufacturing safety defect. | |||
| 04/29/1999 | 2 | ||
| The left front corner of the seat has about a half-inch of vertical slack in it. (you can move the left-front corner up that much with your hand.) this allows the seat to rock back (in a rocking motion) when pushing against the seat back. this happens when getting in the car, changing positions in the seat, and even under hard acceleration. the dealer replaced the seat track under warranty. that didn't solve it. the service representative at the dealer told me this was not an uncommon problem. it started as soon as we got the car (purchased new) and it's never stopped. *jb | |||
| 12/23/2002 | 48000 | ||
| While driving the driver seat loosen up, became very mobile. consumer feels that this can cause serious injuries if vehicle is in an accident. please provide more details. ts | |||
| 03/04/2002 | 1 | ||
| The driver seat got loose suddenly and tilted backward while the consumer was driving. the dealer replaced the lower track bracket. *yh | |||
| 10 | 06/01/2099 | ||
| Passenger seat tracks wouldn't latch correctly allowing the entire seat to slide backward when accelerating from a complete stop smashing the rear passengers legs. component was replaced under warranty after second time to dealer about the problem.*ak | |||
| 08/01/2001 | 1 | 01/01/1999 | |
| Seat track is broken and seat is flopping around. the metal piece that attached to the seat frame has broken off. when looking at the break, observed metal shavings on floor and a lot of metal shavings at the point of the break. appears to be a defective part or workmanship. my concern is that if i had had an accident, the seat would not have held and i could have been thrown out the back of the car. i have reported this to honda customer care department, they did not seem concerned at all. offered to pay half of the part required to fix this but they said the part was around $700! i have not had it fixed yet because i feel they should be responsible. i see that mine is the 4th complaint reported to you regarding this same issue. | |||
| 01/31/2002 | 02/01/1999 | ||
| Seat track broken and seat came loose.*ak | |||
| 04/30/2001 | 1 | 01/01/1999 | |
| Driver's seat track came unbolted from floor. dealer has inspected and repaired vehicle.*ak the dealer paid half the cost of repair. *yh | |||
| 02/01/2001 | 1 | 08/01/1998 | |
| Seat track broken. *ak | |||
| 12/30/2000 | 1 | 10/01/1998 | |
| Left metal control arm that raises and lowers the drivers seat has broken. both the metal and the weld have broken and the bar under the seat is no longer attached to the control arm under the left front of the seat. the seat flops and is unstable. this car has not been involved in an accident but the fear is that had it been or should it be, the seat will fall backwards causing serious injury to both the driver and rear seat passenger. should the right side fail, the seat will not be held in place at all. this does not seem to be the type of failure that should occur under normal circumstances or even in an accident. honda will accept no responsibility for this failure even though it appears to be a serious safety concern.*ak | |||
| 05/23/2000 | 0 | 03/25/1999 | |
| While stopping at a light driver's side seat reclined all the way back. consumer could have hit someone. took vehicle to dealer, and they fixed the seat adjusting mechanism. *ak *ml | |||
| SEATS - FRONT ASSEMBLY - POWER ADJUST | |||
| 03/12/2007 | 109000 | 2 | 05/07/1999 |
| Tl* - the contact owns a 1999 honda accord ex. the contact stated that the srs air bag light flashed on/off, and it was related to a problem on the driver's seat. the contact stated the problem with the light was an every day occurrence. the contact stated that the lights turning on/off normally happened upon the acceleration and deceleration of the vehicle. the contact could be driving at 5 mph or more when this occurred. the contact was told that he needed a new driver's seat because of the wiring. the contact stated that he took the vehicle to the dealership to find out if there was a warranty or recall and was told that there was not. the contact stated that the 2004 and 2005 model vehicles already have the safety recall, but it was not on this 1999 vehicle. the current and failure mileage were both 109,000. *ak | |||
| 06/13/2004 | 1 | 04/28/1999 | |
| Wiithout warning, my driver side power assisted seat collapsed and cannot lock upright. it can only lock in lay-down position. i plan to take it to my local honda dealership (patty peck honda, ridgeland) to immediate repair. i did not receive any recall notices about this defect. another honda owner told me today, june 13, 2004. *ak | |||
| 08/20/2003 | 39000 | 1 | 12/07/1998 |
| Service bulletin #' 030013 & 03034 seats:front assembly:power adjust recall replaced bracket for looseness in seat-back & cushion - did not resolve problem - returned to dealership & was advised seat track - needed replacement - ($758.53 track - labor $218.38) the seat started shifting when vehicle was approx 2.5 years old - contacted honda direct (800-999-1009 case#n012003-08-220-1363) was advised they would pay 50% of seat track. the dealership and honda direct have been courteous & kind. i do not feel under normal usage that the seat track should fail. i believe that the recall should have been for the track not the bracket. *ph | |||
| 1 | |||
| Vehicle experienced seat adjuster and gas gauge problems. *ak *jb | |||
| 12/26/2001 | 1 | 10/01/1999 | |
| I was in an accident. i was sitting in stopped traffic when an suv rear ended me going about 40 to 45 mph . it then sent me into a truck that was stopped in front of me. my seat the drivers side colapsed and i ended up laying flat in the back seat. after talking to the body shop i found out all the gears in the power seat were stripped causing back injury. it is my understanding that this should have never colasped. i have contacted the honda dealer along with honda consumer relation and the safety council and received no satisfaction they all just passed the buck back to one another it was a vicious circle.*ak | |||
| 01/01/2001 | 3 | 06/25/1999 | |
| The driver's seat back reclined automatically on three occasions while the vehicle was parked. the consumer had contacted the manufactutrer. *yh | |||
| 4 | 07/26/1999 | ||
| Driver's power seat collapses into a reclining position while parking , this has occurred 4 times. *ak | |||
| SEATS - FRONT ASSEMBLY - RECLINER | |||
| 03/14/2003 | 12 | ||
| After tilting forward passenger side front seat only locks into place if the back of the seat is locked back before sliding the seat back into place. i have had several occasions where the passenger slid forward while braking. the seat belt held, but the passengers were caught by surprise. i showed the dealer this and was told well, just lock the seat back. however, when the seat has been tilted forward, passengers naturally slide it back into place. if they do not lock the back upright first, there is a chance the seat is not locked into place.*ak | |||
| 06/28/2004 | 119800 | 1 | 12/30/1999 |
| (1) driver's power seat was moved to its most extreme rearward position while cleaning under the seat. backrest was not moved or unlatched from it's normal upright position. seat was then repositioned to its normal driving location. (2) upon sitting in the seat and leaning back against the backrest, it gave way and driver fell backwards. holding onto the steering wheel prevented driver from falling into a nearly horizontal position. upon releasing pressure against the backrest, it sprang back to its normal upright position. seat would not lock into the upright position. if the latch had failed while driving the driver would have been thrown backwards and could have resulted in loss of control of vehicle with a possibility of a crash. (3) driver attempted to operate the power seat's various controls controls to re-engage latching mechanism without success. when vehicle was brought to dealer, it took about an hour of disassembling the module containing the latching mechanism module before it could be made to lock. technician could not explain why it failed and why it repaired itself or that it wouldn't happen again with the original module. new part was ordered and is to be replaced at owner's expense week of july 5- approximate cost $400. presently don't know if i can retain custody of old part. *nm | |||
| 06/24/2004 | 1 | ||
| Consumer stated while driving leaned back and the seat collapsed. consumer called the dealer, and was told there was no recall, and that repair was consumer's problem. consumer stated she will have vehicle inspected and repaired on monday june 28, 2004. *ak | |||
| 08/01/2004 | 92000 | 1 | |
| The seat bracket broke. when the driver accelerated the seat wobbled. *ak the consumer would be thrown around nearly losing control of the vehicle. *sc *jb | |||
| 03/21/2004 | 73500 | 1 | |
| While at a stop consumer was rear ended. this caused the driver's seat frame to snap, jerking the driver's seat forward. dealership was notified, but did not resolve the problem. *ak | |||
| 03/29/2004 | 85000 | 1 | |
| The consumer pulled the seat back forward to place items in the back seat of the vehicle. when the seat back was pushed back to the original position, the back would not stay in the upright position. the consumer attempted to drive the vehicle with the seat back not in the upright position and was involved in a collision with another vehicle. the consumer was cited by the police and suffered minor injuries to the arms, legs and hand. *mr | |||
| 03/14/2001 | 38000 | 1 | 03/10/1999 |
| Weld broke on my driver's seat 1999, honda ,accord with only 38,000 miles on it.took car to dealer, and they said the intire linkage was needed, and would cost $800.00 for the part. now a year later, i get a letter from honda for a seat product recall, and a bracket is to solve this problem. for one year i have been driving a car that throws me forward and back.this is a safety issue, and a car that was only 2 years old should not have this problem.please thank the ten people that came forwar because now honda might correct it's mistake and my car will get fixed.*ak sincerely ,matthias wiepke | |||
| Consumer state while sitting in driver seat without any indication seat rocked backwards in result of seat giving away. dealer has been contacted. please provide further information. ts | |||
| 12/26/2001 | |||
| Consumer was at a stop when vehicle was rearended by another vehicle travelling 45 mph. upon impact, driver's seatback broke. no injuries, vehicle at dealership at this time. damage about $ 5000.00.*ak | |||
| 02/06/2001 | 3 | ||
| Drivers seat back automatically reclined on three occasions, all three times the weather was very cold and the seat back did not return to the upright position when the button was pushed until the seat was moved to the full forward position, dealer could not duplicate the problem. *slc | |||
| 12/24/1999 | 1 | ||
| Consumer was stopped and a vehicle hit her from behind, the seat broke and was left in a reclining position. *slc | |||