Ic Ce 2008
Model Ce made in 2008 by Ic got 6 consumer complains, 1 investigation there are 9 recalls as well as 2 service bulletins. Consumer complaints with reference, among others things, to structure, unknown or other. Technical service bulletines regarding engine and engine cooling. The car had one investigation (electrical system). There were some recalls concerningelectrical system, engine and engine cooling and equipment.
Model 2008
Recalls
| Campaign | Manufacturer | Manufacturing date | Type | # of units affected | Date Owner notified Mfg | Recall Initiated by | Manufacturers of recalled vehicles/products | Report Recieved Date | Record Creation Date | Regulation Part Number | FMVSS Number | |||||
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| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM | ||||||||||||||||
| 08V258000 | NAVISTAR, INC | from 11/21/2000 to 05/21/2008 | V (Vehicle) | 51588 | 07/10/2008 | MFR | IC CORPORATION | 06/05/2008 | 06/09/2008 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | Navistar is recalling 51,588 heavy trucks, commercial buses and school buses manufactured between november 21, 2000 and may 21, 2008, equipped with one or more remote power modules. the potting material that encapsulates the circuit board of the vehicle's remote power module may not sufficiently seal the circuit board from water and contamination intrusion. if the encapsulation is compromised, water and contaminants may cause an internal electrical short, possibly resulting in a fire. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | A fire could cause personal injury or death. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Navistar will notify owners and repair the vehicles free of charge. the recall began on july 10, 2008. owners may contact navistar at 1-280-461-1890. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Navistar recall no. 08505.customers may contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty: 1-800-424-9153); or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - ALTERNATOR/GENERATOR/REGULATOR | ||||||||||||||||
| 11V428000 | NAVISTAR, INC | from 06/27/2006 to 03/23/2011 | V (Vehicle) | 73 | MFR | IC CORPORATION | 08/18/2011 | 08/18/2011 | ||||||||
| Defect Summary | Navistar is recalling certain model year 2007-2012 ic ce and be commercial buses manufactured from june 27, 2006, through march 23, 2011, equipped with a maxxforce 7 engine feature code 12nth, 12ntd, 12nte, 12ntg, 12vyy, or 12627 and alternator feature code 0008ggr, 0008ggm, 0008gwx, or 0008gel. the positive alternator cable may rub on the engine control module mounting bracket, possibly chafing its insulation and causing an electrical short. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | An electrical short may cause a vehicle fire possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Navistar will notify owners and dealers will inspect and replace, if necessary, the alternator cable. tie straps will be installed to route the alternator cable away from the engine control module mounting bracket. these repairs will be performed free of charge. the safety recall is expected to begin on or about september 23, 2011. owners may contact navistar at 1-800-448-7825. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Navistar's campaign number is 11518.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
| 11V427000 | NAVISTAR, INC | from 06/27/2006 to 03/23/2011 | V (Vehicle) | 15457 | MFR | IC CORPORATION | 08/18/2011 | 08/18/2011 | ||||||||
| Defect Summary | Navistar is recalling certain model year 2007-2012 ic ce and be school buses manufactured from june 27, 2006, through march 23, 2011, equipped with a maxxforce 7 engine feature code 12nth, 12ntd, 12nte, 12ntg, 12vyy, or 12627 and alternator feature code 0008ggr, 0008ggm, 0008gwx, or 0008gel. the positive alternator cable may rub on the engine control module mounting bracket, possibly chafing its insulation and causing an electrical short. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | An electrical short may cause a vehicle fire possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Navistar will notify owners, and dealers will inspect and replace, if necessary, the alternator cable and the installation of the tie straps to route the alternator cable away from the engine control module mounting bracket. repairs will be performed free of charge. the safety recall is expected to begin on or about september 23, 2011. owners may contact navistar at 1-800-448-7825. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Navistar's recall campaign number is 11518.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
| ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING | ||||||||||||||||
| 08V353000 | NAVISTAR, INC | from 09/21/2001 to 12/14/2007 | V (Vehicle) | 24975 | 10/03/2008 | ODI | IC CORPORATION | 07/30/2008 | 07/30/2008 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | Navistar is recalling 24,975 my 2003 through 2008 ic be, ce, hc, and re school and commercial buses and 2002 through 2008 international 3200 and 3300 model buses manufactured between september 21, 2001 through december 14, 2007, equipped with international vt365 engines. these vehicles may exhibit engine hard start, no start, or stall conditions due to possibly damaged terminals in the fuse holder connector of the injector drive module (idm) clean battery power circuits. the terminals may have been damaged during electrical continuity testing in the manufacturing process. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | These conditions could result in a vehicle crash, possibly resulting in personal injury. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Navistar will notify owners and replace the idm fuse holder free of charge. the recall began on october 3, 2008. owners can contact navistar toll-free at 1-800-448-7825. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Navistar's recall no. 08506.customers may contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty: 1-800-424-9153); or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
| EQUIPMENT - ELECTRICAL | ||||||||||||||||
| 09V052000 | NAVISTAR, INC | from 02/02/2000 to 06/02/2008 | V (Vehicle) | 61316 | 07/02/2009 | ODI | IC CORPORATION | 02/10/2009 | 02/10/2009 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | Navistar is recalling 61,316 my 2001 through 2009 ic be, ce, and fe model commercial and school buses manufactured between february 2, 2000 and june 2, 2008, equipped with an entrance door stepwell heater feature code 0048pms or 0548001 and/or a rear wall mounted heater feature code 0048tar or 0048psx. the affected heater units may fail in low speed operation causing elevated temperatures. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | Elevated temperatures can result in a fire, possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | An interim letter was mailed on february 20, 2009, to communicate the defect and recommend action to mitigate the risk until the final remedy and customer notification could be provided at a later date. the manufacture filed an amended defect report dated march 27, 2009 advising that a final remedy has been developed and parts are being manufactured. the safety recall began on june 2, 2009. owners may contact navistar toll-free at 1-800-448-7825. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Navistar's recall no. 09501.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
| SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC | ||||||||||||||||
| 10V103000 | NAVISTAR, INC | from 11/19/2003 to 02/09/2010 | V (Vehicle) | 5016 | 04/02/2010 | MFR | IC CORPORATION | 03/16/2010 | 03/16/2010 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | Navistar has notified nhtsa about a defect in certain model year 2010 and 2011 ic ce, be, and fe school buses manufactured from november 19, 2003 through february 9, 2010. the parking brake may release if the brake system electronic control unit software misinterprets input signals generated from cycling the ignition switch more than once at a specific frequency. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | Release of the parking brake may cause sudden, unexpected shift in vehicle position possibly resulting in property damage, personal damage, or death. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Navistar will notify owners and will repair the buses by reprogramming the vehicle's brake system ecu free of charge. the safety recall began on april 2, 2010. owners may contact navistar at 1-260-461-1890. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Navistar's recall campaign number is 10505.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
| STRUCTURE - BODY - DOOR | ||||||||||||||||
| 11V375000 | NAVISTAR, INC | from 11/01/2006 to 05/02/2011 | V (Vehicle) | 70 | 08/03/2011 | MFR | IC CORPORATION | 07/21/2011 | 07/25/2011 | 571 | 217 | |||||
| Defect Summary | Navistar is recalling certain model year 2008 through 2012 ic be, ce, and fe school buses manufactured from november 1, 2006, through may 2, 2011. the reflective tape for the rear exit door may not have been totally completed. accordingly, the buses fail to conform to the requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 217, bus emergency exits and window retention and release. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | This noncompliance may reduce conspicuity of the rear door, reducing the ability of emergency personnel to identify and gain access to the rear exit during an emergency, possibly increasing the occupant's risk of personal injury or death during an emergency. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Navistar will notify owners and dealers will inspect the buses and add reflective tape if necessary. the safety recall began on august 3, 2011. owners may contact navistar at 1-800-448-7825. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Navistar's recall campaign number is 11514.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
| VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL | ||||||||||||||||
| 10V265000 | NAVISTAR, INC | from 12/04/2001 to 12/14/2009 | V (Vehicle) | 4131 | MFR | IC CORPORATION | 06/15/2010 | 06/15/2010 | ||||||||
| Defect Summary | Navistar is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2008 ic be, re, and ce school buses manufactured from december 4, 2001 through december 14, 2009 equipped with international vt365 engines having engine calibration pan2pvr0, pan2pvr1, or pan2pwr. the engine normally responds to a failed open accelerator position sensor circuit fault by returning the engine to low idle speed of 800 rpm and disabling the driver's ability to increase the engine speed. however if the open circuit corrects itself within 30 seconds of initiation, engine speed could suddenly increase to a high idle speed of 1200 rpm. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | This increase to high idle speed may occur without warning causing a sudden and unexpected shift in vehicle position possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Navistar will notify owners and dealers will repair the vehicles free of charge. the safety recall is expected to begin on or about august 16, 2010. owners may contact navistar at 1-800-448-7825.. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Navistar's recall campaign number is 10512.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
| 10V267000 | NAVISTAR, INC | from 12/04/2001 to 12/14/2009 | V (Vehicle) | 2085 | MFR | IC CORPORATION | 06/15/2010 | 06/16/2010 | ||||||||
| Defect Summary | Navistar is recalling certain model year 2003 through 2010 international trucks and ic commercial buses manufactured from december 4, 2001 through december 14, 2009 equipped with international vt365 engines having engine calibration pan2pvr0, pan2pvr1, or pan2pwr. the engine normally responds to a failed open accelerator position sensor circuit fault by returning the engine to low idle speed of 800 rpm and disabling the driver's ability to increase the engine speed. however if the open circuit corrects itself within 30 seconds of initiation, engine speed could suddenly increase to a high idle speed of 1200 rpm. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | This increase to high idle speed may occur without warning causing a sudden and unexpected shift in vehicle position possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Navistar will notify owners and dealers will repair the vehicles free of charge. the safety recall is expected to begin on or about august 16, 2010. owners may contact navistar at 1-800-448-7825. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Navistar's campaign number is 10512.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
Bulletins
| Bulletin | Bulletin date | Replacement Bulletin | Item no. | Summary | Added |
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| ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING - ENGINE - DIESEL | |||||
| FG-G-10914 | 10/08/2010 | 10037262 | Ic corp. service campaign: see document search button for owner letter. there is a service to reduce engine egr cooler failures and vehicle down time. *rm | 05/16/2011 | |
| ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING - EXHAUST SYSTEM - EMISSION CONTROL - GAS RECIRCULATION VALVE (EGR VALVE) | |||||
| FG-G-10914 | 10/08/2010 | 10037262 | Ic corp. service campaign: see document search button for owner letter. there is a service to reduce engine egr cooler failures and vehicle down time. *rm | 05/16/2011 | |
Investigations
| NHTSA ID | Manufacturer | Date open | Date close | Subject | Recall campaign | |
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| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - FUSES AND CIRCUIT BREAKERS | ||||||
| PE08034 | IC CORPORATION | 05/09/2008 | 08/28/2008 | SCHOOL BUS STALLING | 08V353000 | |
| This pe was opened after odi became aware of 7 events on school buses where the fuse for the ecmoverheated and burned the fuse holder and/or fuse holder terminals.once overheating of the fuse holder occurs, the fuse blades would no longerbe secured in the plastic holder, thus interrupting the electrical flow.the complaints centered aroundeither a no-start, hard start, erratic engine performance or engine stalling. odi was also aware of reported battery box fires. thepe was opened to examine the safety significance and gain a technical understanding of this problem.after discussions with odi and further review of field incidents, ic decided the proper way to handle this issue was to conduct a safety recall during which they willreplace the fuse holders and the power electrical connector on the affected vehicles.this recall action resolves the issues raised by this investigation. therefore, this investigation is closed. | ||||||
Consumer Complaints
| Fail date | miles | occurences | Purchase date |
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| STRUCTURE - BODY | |||
| 11/01/2008 | 10000 | 1 | |
| We have had 4 2008 model ic 77 capacity school buses that the entrance door has broken and fallen off of the bus. in all 4 cases the door frame broke at the upper hinge pivot point and allowed the door to become detached from the vehicle. the fractures in the metal frame look extremely similar in all 4 cases. thee first incident was in october 2008, the latest incident was last week. *tr | |||
| STRUCTURE - FRAME AND MEMBERS | |||
| 09/22/2008 | 1 | ||
| I have a series of 2008 conventional ic school buses (21 buses) that were purchased new in july 2008. since the beg. of the sch. yr, (aug. 20th) we have had 5 entrance (emergency) doors shear off at the top of the door and fall outward, being held solely by the bottom pin. this is a huge safety issue. if the bottom pin were to give way also...the door would fall on the children that are loading or unloading. i have been told that these doors are defective and that there is no plan to recall. no one killed or injured...yet so the dealer says that they are just replacing them as they break off. is there anything in the works to recall these buses before one of these doors falls onto a small child? i have submitted the info. for the first vehicle had the problem. if need be i will submit for the other 4 vehicles. *tr | |||
| UNKNOWN OR OTHER | |||
| 10/03/2011 | 81117 | ||
| As you are driving down the highway the mil lamp (engine emissions control malfunction indicator lamp) comes on and the bus will go to idle and you can not accelerate. you must stop shut the engine key off and restart and the light goes off and the bus runs fine until the mil light comes on again. this is intermitant. some times it doesn't do it at all and some times it will come on one to four times on a 15 mile run. | |||