Mci D4505 2008
Model D4505 made in 2008 by Mci got 13 investigations there are 6 recalls as well as 10 service bulletins. Technical service bulletines regarding engine and engine cooling, power train and unknown or other. The car had some investigations: power train, structure and suspension. There were some recalls concerningelectrical system, electronic stability control and equipment.
Model 2008
Recalls
Campaign | Manufacturer | Manufacturing date | Type | # of units affected | Date Owner notified Mfg | Recall Initiated by | Manufacturers of recalled vehicles/products | Report Recieved Date | Record Creation Date | Regulation Part Number | FMVSS Number | |||||
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ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - ALTERNATOR/GENERATOR/REGULATOR | ||||||||||||||||
09V446000 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | from 04/01/2005 to 12/31/2008 | V (Vehicle) | 1007 | 11/20/2009 | ODI | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 11/18/2009 | 11/18/2009 | |||||||
Defect Summary | Mci is recalling certain model year 2005-2008 d4000, model year 2005-2009 d4500 and d4505 transit buses, equipped with caterpillar c13 engine and 50dn alternator. the alternator cable may become loose within the cable clamp, which could result in chafing of the alternator cable and possible arcing of the cable wires. | |||||||||||||||
Consequence Summary | This could result in a fire. | |||||||||||||||
Corrective Summary | Mci will notify owners and replace the alternator cable clamp and related hardware free of charge. the safety recall began on november 30, 2009. owners may contact mci customer service at 1-800-241-2947. | |||||||||||||||
Notes | Owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL | ||||||||||||||||
11V524000 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | V (Vehicle) | 1962 | 01/04/2012 | MFR | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 10/26/2011 | 10/28/2011 | ||||||||
Defect Summary | Motor coach industries (mci) is recalling certain model year 2003, and 2007-2012 e and j models along with model year 2007-2012 d4000, d4005, d4500, d4505, d4000istv motor coaches equipped with meritor wabco electronic stability control (esc) modules, manufactured from october 2002, through october 2011. under certain road and driving conditions, vehicle body roll and road inclination characteristics may adversely affect the slip angle calculation of the electronic stability control (esc) system. this might cause the esc to perceive an over steering situation and therefore apply the outer wheel brake on the front axle until the vehicle is perceived to be stable. | |||||||||||||||
Consequence Summary | If the driver is slow to react during this esc intervention, the vehicle may deviate from the intended line of travel, increasing the risk of a crash. | |||||||||||||||
Corrective Summary | Mci will notify owners and replace the control module free of charge. the manufacturer has not yet provided an owner notification schedule. owners may contact mci customer service at 1-800-241-2947. | |||||||||||||||
Notes | Mci safety recall number is 371.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
EQUIPMENT | ||||||||||||||||
08V603000 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | V (Vehicle) | 1893 | 12/17/2008 | MFR | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 11/21/2008 | 11/21/2008 | ||||||||
Defect Summary | Mci is recalling 1,893 my 2002-2008 d model and my 2001-2008 e and j4500 motor coaches equipped with zf transmissions. there is a potential for the shift selector to malfunction as a result of a cell phone or radio being placed in close proximity to the shifter control pad. | |||||||||||||||
Consequence Summary | When this happens, the shift selector may move into reverse without driver knowledge increasing the risk of a crash. | |||||||||||||||
Corrective Summary | Mci is working with zf and has created a software update that protects against the potential for transient analog or digital signal interference. the recall is expected to begin during november 2008. .owners may contact mci at 1-800-333-0371 and zf at 1-734-416-6200. | |||||||||||||||
Notes | Mci recall no. 308.customers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE | ||||||||||||||||
10V114000 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | V (Vehicle) | 249 | 04/21/2010 | MFR | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 03/24/2010 | 03/24/2010 | ||||||||
Defect Summary | Mci has notified nhtsa of a defect in certain model year 2009 d4000 and model year 2008-2010 d4500 and d4505 motor coaches fitted with ricon public use lifts. the restraint belt on these lifts was designed to prevent the lift from moving, unless the tongue of the belt is fully engaged and latched in the buckle. ricon has discovered, however, that it is possible for the operator to insert the belt tongue into the buckle without fully engaging the latching mechanism. in this case, the restraint belt would appear to be latched, and the operator could run the lift. if the restraint belt tongue is not fully engaged into the restraint belt buckle, and latched, the lift may operate with an occupant on the platform. | |||||||||||||||
Consequence Summary | The user of the lift could be injured should the lift move without the restraint belt properly buckled. | |||||||||||||||
Corrective Summary | Mci is working with ricon and ricon will be handling the remedy for this campaign. please see ricon's defect report 09e-060. ricon will provide customers with a warning decal and a dvd-based training aid. the recall is expected to begin during april 2010. owners may contact ricon customer service at 1-800-322-2884, emailing at www.dmata@wabtec.com. | |||||||||||||||
Notes | Mci recall no. 342.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . | |||||||||||||||
STEERING - GEAR BOX - SHAFT PITMAN | ||||||||||||||||
08V063000 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | V (Vehicle) | 24 | 02/11/2008 | ODI | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 02/07/2008 | 02/07/2008 | ||||||||
Defect Summary | Motor coach industries (mci) is recalling 24 my 2008 d4505, d4500, d4000istv motor coaches equipped with trw steering gears, models tas85. these steering gears contain potentially defective sector shafts with an incorrect gear tooth which may interfere with the rack-piston teeth, resulting in a sticking or binding condition. | |||||||||||||||
Consequence Summary | This condition has the potential to cause the steering gear to stall and restrict the steering turning angle of the vehicle which could result in a vehicle crash. | |||||||||||||||
Corrective Summary | Mci is working with trw to replace the defective steering gear (please see 07e101). the recall began on february 11, 2008. owners may contact trw at 1-765-429-1768 or mci at 1-204-287-4982. | |||||||||||||||
Notes | Mci recall no. 296.customers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
SUSPENSION - REAR - AXLE - NON-POWERED AXLE ASSEMBLY | ||||||||||||||||
09V041000 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | from 11/01/2004 to 05/31/2008 | V (Vehicle) | 103 | 02/25/2009 | MFR | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 02/03/2009 | 02/03/2009 | |||||||
Defect Summary | Mci is recalling 103 my 2005-2008 d4500 and d4505 coaches equipped with detroit diesel series 60 engines and a zf transmission. customers may experience a possible interference between the drive shaft u-joint bearing cap bolts and the tag axle center beam assembly. | |||||||||||||||
Consequence Summary | Interference between the bearing cap bolts and the axle center beam assembly could cause the bearing cap bolts to shear, freeing the bearings and possibly releasing the drive shaft, increasing the risk of vehicle damage or a crash. | |||||||||||||||
Corrective Summary | Dealers will install a tag axle suspension spacer kit and an spl250 driveshaft retrofit kit to limit the suspension travel and reduce the swing diameter of the driveshaft thereby increasing the clearance and eliminating any possible interference. the recall began on february 25, 2009. owners may contact mci at 1800-241-2947. | |||||||||||||||
Notes | Customers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov . |
Bulletins
Bulletin | Bulletin date | Replacement Bulletin | Item no. | Summary | Added |
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ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING - ENGINE - DIESEL | |||||
SB-320 | 02/24/2009 | 10028691 | Zf friedrichshafen: tag axle/drive shaft interference-detroit diesel series 60 engine and zf transmission. experience interference between drive shaft u joint bearing cap bolts and tag axle center beam. model years unknown. *pe | 05/14/2009 | |
POWER TRAIN - AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION | |||||
354 | 02/24/2011 | 10038195 | Motor coach industries service campaign: see document search button for owner letter. there may be a harsh downshift, rpm flare, or the transmission may lock. *rm | 06/09/2011 | |
POWER TRAIN - AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - CONTROL MODULE (TCM, PCM) | |||||
354 | 02/24/2011 | 10038195 | Motor coach industries service campaign: see document search button for owner letter. there may be a harsh downshift, rpm flare, or the transmission may lock. *rm | 06/09/2011 | |
POWER TRAIN - DRIVELINE - DRIVESHAFT | |||||
SB-277C | 02/24/2009 | 10028745 | Motor coach: tag axle/driveshaft interference-fixed tag axle. interference due to limited clearance between drive shaft u joint bearing cap bolts and tag axle center beam. model years unknown. *pe | 05/22/2009 | |
SB-320 | 02/24/2009 | 10028691 | Zf friedrichshafen: tag axle/drive shaft interference-detroit diesel series 60 engine and zf transmission. experience interference between drive shaft u joint bearing cap bolts and tag axle center beam. model years unknown. *pe | 05/14/2009 | |
POWER TRAIN - DRIVELINE - UNIVERSAL JOINT | |||||
SB-277C | 02/24/2009 | 10028745 | Motor coach: tag axle/driveshaft interference-fixed tag axle. interference due to limited clearance between drive shaft u joint bearing cap bolts and tag axle center beam. model years unknown. *pe | 05/22/2009 | |
POWER TRAIN - MANUAL TRANSMISSION | |||||
354 | 02/24/2011 | 10038195 | Motor coach industries service campaign: see document search button for owner letter. there may be a harsh downshift, rpm flare, or the transmission may lock. *rm | 06/09/2011 | |
SB-320 | 02/24/2009 | 10028691 | Zf friedrichshafen: tag axle/drive shaft interference-detroit diesel series 60 engine and zf transmission. experience interference between drive shaft u joint bearing cap bolts and tag axle center beam. model years unknown. *pe | 05/14/2009 | |
UNKNOWN OR OTHER | |||||
SB-357 | 04/25/2011 | 10038824 | Ready | 06/28/2011 | |
SB-357 | 04/25/2011 | 10038824 | Motor coach indudstries: information on replacing the coolant pump that may have a problem. *rm | 06/28/2011 |
Investigations
NHTSA ID | Manufacturer | Date open | Date close | Subject | Recall campaign | |
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POWER TRAIN - DRIVELINE | ||||||
PE12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 03/21/2012 | 09/20/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | ||
Odi has identified certain mci coaches with powertrain configurations that may allow a driveshaft separated at the rearward universal joint to escape the guardian structure of the steerable tag axle and damage steering and braking components.the damaged components may increase the risk of a loss of vehicle control. the subject coaches include 806 model year 1992 through 2012 mci d and e series motor coaches with steerable tag axles.this preliminary evaluation is being upgraded to an engineering analysis (ea12-007) to further study the alleged defect and to determine if a safety defect exists. the odi report cited above can be viewed at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints: odi number 10447575. | ||||||
EA12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 09/13/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | |||
Odi has identified certain mci coaches with powertrain configurations that may allow a driveshaft separated at the rearward universal joint to escape the guardian structure of the steerable tag axle and damage steering and braking components.the damaged components may increase the risk of a loss of vehicle control. the subject coaches include 806 model year 1992 through 2012 mci d and e series motor coaches with steerable tag axles.this engineering analysis is being opened to further study the alleged defect and to determine if a safety defect exists. the odi report cited above can be viewed at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints: odi number 10447575. | ||||||
EA12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 09/13/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | |||
Odi has identified certain mci coaches with powertrain configurations that may allow a driveshaft separated at the rearward universal joint to escape the guardian structure of the steerable tag axle and damage steering and braking components.the damaged components may increase the risk of a loss of vehicle control. the subject coaches include 806 model year 1992 through 2012 mci d and e series motor coaches with steerable tag axles.this engineering analysis is being opened to further study the alleged defect and its determine if a safety defect exists. the odi report cited above can be viewed at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints: odi number 10447575. | ||||||
PE12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 03/21/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | |||
Representatives from a large bus fleet operator have alleged that they have experienced several driveshaft failures on mci d series buses beginning in march 2010.the failed driveshafts were not contained by the safety loops for the driveshaft.they assert that in two instances the driveshaft failures resulted in loss of control of the bus and in multiple injuries and fatalities.the vehicles have a steerable tag axle that is used to increase the gvwr while reducing the turning radius and minimizing tire scrub that would normally occur with a tandem rear axle configuration.in these buses, the transmission couples to the driveshaft which then passes through a guardian structure integral with the tag axle and a forward safety loop before it couples to the drive axle.the driveshafts in these models with certain engine/transmission combinations may not be encapsulated by a safety loop (or guardian structure of the tag axle) at the transmission end.testing done by the fleet operator suggests that in the event of a driveshaft/transmission coupling failure the shorter driveshafts could escape the tag axle pass-through guardian structure and disable the steering lock of the tag axle and potentially damage other safety systems such as brake lines.additional vehicle dynamic testing suggests that an unlocked passive steerable tag axle could cause a loss of vehicle control given sufficient speed and other conditions.odi has reviewed the material supplied by the fleet operator and believes that additional information is required to determine if a safety related defect exists.odi is opening this investigation in order to gather information to assess whether the subject vehicles contain a safety related defect. | ||||||
STRUCTURE - BODY - DOOR | ||||||
PE10001 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 01/14/2010 | 04/09/2010 | Wheel Chair Lift Separates From Bus | 10V087000 | |
Odi opened this investigation upon learning of two incidents where the wheel chair assembly broke through the side door while the motor coach was being operated. both incidents resulted in property damage to parked vehicles.after further review, mci decided to conduct a safety recall to resolve this issue. mci will provide parts and labor to install a ricon-designed retrofit kit that includes a spring-loaded lock mechanism. the additional lock mechanism will prevent unintended wheel chair lift deployment regardless of the cause. the population includes 1995 through 2009 d4000's, 1997 through 2010 d4500's, and 2005 through 2010 d4505 models. this resolves all issues concerning this investigation. this investigation is closed. | ||||||
SUSPENSION - MULTIPLE AXLE | ||||||
PE12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 03/21/2012 | 09/20/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | ||
Odi has identified certain mci coaches with powertrain configurations that may allow a driveshaft separated at the rearward universal joint to escape the guardian structure of the steerable tag axle and damage steering and braking components.the damaged components may increase the risk of a loss of vehicle control. the subject coaches include 806 model year 1992 through 2012 mci d and e series motor coaches with steerable tag axles.this preliminary evaluation is being upgraded to an engineering analysis (ea12-007) to further study the alleged defect and to determine if a safety defect exists. the odi report cited above can be viewed at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints: odi number 10447575. | ||||||
EA12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 09/13/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | |||
Odi has identified certain mci coaches with powertrain configurations that may allow a driveshaft separated at the rearward universal joint to escape the guardian structure of the steerable tag axle and damage steering and braking components.the damaged components may increase the risk of a loss of vehicle control. the subject coaches include 806 model year 1992 through 2012 mci d and e series motor coaches with steerable tag axles.this engineering analysis is being opened to further study the alleged defect and to determine if a safety defect exists. the odi report cited above can be viewed at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints: odi number 10447575. | ||||||
EA12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 09/13/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | |||
Odi has identified certain mci coaches with powertrain configurations that may allow a driveshaft separated at the rearward universal joint to escape the guardian structure of the steerable tag axle and damage steering and braking components.the damaged components may increase the risk of a loss of vehicle control. the subject coaches include 806 model year 1992 through 2012 mci d and e series motor coaches with steerable tag axles.this engineering analysis is being opened to further study the alleged defect and its determine if a safety defect exists. the odi report cited above can be viewed at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints: odi number 10447575. | ||||||
PE12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 03/21/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | |||
Representatives from a large bus fleet operator have alleged that they have experienced several driveshaft failures on mci d series buses beginning in march 2010.the failed driveshafts were not contained by the safety loops for the driveshaft.they assert that in two instances the driveshaft failures resulted in loss of control of the bus and in multiple injuries and fatalities.the vehicles have a steerable tag axle that is used to increase the gvwr while reducing the turning radius and minimizing tire scrub that would normally occur with a tandem rear axle configuration.in these buses, the transmission couples to the driveshaft which then passes through a guardian structure integral with the tag axle and a forward safety loop before it couples to the drive axle.the driveshafts in these models with certain engine/transmission combinations may not be encapsulated by a safety loop (or guardian structure of the tag axle) at the transmission end.testing done by the fleet operator suggests that in the event of a driveshaft/transmission coupling failure the shorter driveshafts could escape the tag axle pass-through guardian structure and disable the steering lock of the tag axle and potentially damage other safety systems such as brake lines.additional vehicle dynamic testing suggests that an unlocked passive steerable tag axle could cause a loss of vehicle control given sufficient speed and other conditions.odi has reviewed the material supplied by the fleet operator and believes that additional information is required to determine if a safety related defect exists.odi is opening this investigation in order to gather information to assess whether the subject vehicles contain a safety related defect. | ||||||
SUSPENSION - REAR - AXLE - NON-POWERED AXLE ASSEMBLY | ||||||
PE12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 03/21/2012 | 09/20/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | ||
Odi has identified certain mci coaches with powertrain configurations that may allow a driveshaft separated at the rearward universal joint to escape the guardian structure of the steerable tag axle and damage steering and braking components.the damaged components may increase the risk of a loss of vehicle control. the subject coaches include 806 model year 1992 through 2012 mci d and e series motor coaches with steerable tag axles.this preliminary evaluation is being upgraded to an engineering analysis (ea12-007) to further study the alleged defect and to determine if a safety defect exists. the odi report cited above can be viewed at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints: odi number 10447575. | ||||||
EA12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 09/13/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | |||
Odi has identified certain mci coaches with powertrain configurations that may allow a driveshaft separated at the rearward universal joint to escape the guardian structure of the steerable tag axle and damage steering and braking components.the damaged components may increase the risk of a loss of vehicle control. the subject coaches include 806 model year 1992 through 2012 mci d and e series motor coaches with steerable tag axles.this engineering analysis is being opened to further study the alleged defect and to determine if a safety defect exists. the odi report cited above can be viewed at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints: odi number 10447575. | ||||||
EA12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 09/13/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | |||
Odi has identified certain mci coaches with powertrain configurations that may allow a driveshaft separated at the rearward universal joint to escape the guardian structure of the steerable tag axle and damage steering and braking components.the damaged components may increase the risk of a loss of vehicle control. the subject coaches include 806 model year 1992 through 2012 mci d and e series motor coaches with steerable tag axles.this engineering analysis is being opened to further study the alleged defect and its determine if a safety defect exists. the odi report cited above can be viewed at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints: odi number 10447575. | ||||||
PE12007 | MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC | 03/21/2012 | MCI Driveshaft Safety Loop Failures | |||
Representatives from a large bus fleet operator have alleged that they have experienced several driveshaft failures on mci d series buses beginning in march 2010.the failed driveshafts were not contained by the safety loops for the driveshaft.they assert that in two instances the driveshaft failures resulted in loss of control of the bus and in multiple injuries and fatalities.the vehicles have a steerable tag axle that is used to increase the gvwr while reducing the turning radius and minimizing tire scrub that would normally occur with a tandem rear axle configuration.in these buses, the transmission couples to the driveshaft which then passes through a guardian structure integral with the tag axle and a forward safety loop before it couples to the drive axle.the driveshafts in these models with certain engine/transmission combinations may not be encapsulated by a safety loop (or guardian structure of the tag axle) at the transmission end.testing done by the fleet operator suggests that in the event of a driveshaft/transmission coupling failure the shorter driveshafts could escape the tag axle pass-through guardian structure and disable the steering lock of the tag axle and potentially damage other safety systems such as brake lines.additional vehicle dynamic testing suggests that an unlocked passive steerable tag axle could cause a loss of vehicle control given sufficient speed and other conditions.odi has reviewed the material supplied by the fleet operator and believes that additional information is required to determine if a safety related defect exists.odi is opening this investigation in order to gather information to assess whether the subject vehicles contain a safety related defect. |