Recalls
| Campaign | Manufacturer | Manufacturing date | Type | # of units affected | Date Owner notified Mfg | Recall Initiated by | Manufacturers of recalled vehicles/products | Report Recieved Date | Record Creation Date | Regulation Part Number | FMVSS Number | |||||
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| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - IGNITION - MODULE | ||||||||||||||||
| 06V410000 | SAAB CARS USA, INC. | V (Vehicle) | 5078 | ODI | GENERAL MOTORS CORP. | 10/26/2006 | 10/27/2006 | |||||||||
| Defect Summary | Certain passenger vehicles equipped with b308 6-cylinder gasoline engines may experience overheating and burnout of the isolated gated bipolar transistor (igbt) within the ignition discharge module (idm) due to increased susceptibility to electrical loads. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | Overheating of the igbt occurs most often at engine start-up, but it may also occur while the engine is running. engine stalling may occur, which could result in a crash. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Dealers will inspect to see what version idm is in the vehicle and replace the idm if it is a version built prior to january 2003. the recall is expected to begin during december 2005. owners may contact saab at 1-800-955-9007. note: this recall is an expansion of a previous campaign (please see 05v399). | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Saab recall no. 05087/15021b. customers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration | |||||||||||||||
| 05V399000 | SAAB CARS USA, INC. | from 06/01/2001 to 06/30/2002 | V (Vehicle) | 103202 | 03/13/2006 | ODI | SAAB CARS USA, INC. | 09/14/2005 | 09/14/2005 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | Certain passenger vehicles equipped with b205/b235 4-cylinder gasoline engines and b308 6-cylinder gasoline engines may experience overheating and burnout of the isolated gated bipolar transistor (igbt) within the ignition discharge module (idm) due to increased susceptibility to electrical loads. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | Overheating of the igbt occurs most often at engine start-up, but it may also occur while the engine is running. engine stalling may occur, which could result in a crash. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Dealers will inspect to see what version idm is in the vehicle and replace the idm if it is a version built prior to the introduction of qp3. an interim letter will be mailed to owners in october 2005, informing them of the condition. parts are now available and owners will be notified to bring their vehicles in to the dealers to have the idm replaced by letter dated march 13, 2006. owners may contact saab at 1-800-955-9007. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Saab recall no. 05087.customers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration | |||||||||||||||
Bulletins
| Bulletin | Bulletin date | Replacement Bulletin | Item no. | Summary | Added |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM | |||||
| SB-071511 | 06/16/2011 | 10039281 | Ready | 07/15/2011 | |
| SB-071511 | 06/16/2011 | 10039281 | Gm: the wipers, turn signals, and power windows are inoperative. 1999-2009 saab 9-5. *rm | 07/15/2011 | |
| 08089-B | 11/01/2008 | 08089-C | 10027804 | General motors corp: special coverage adjustment; analog onstar deactivation. *pe updated 2/17/09. *pe | 02/09/2009 |
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - BATTERY | |||||
| 1002442 | 01/01/2004 | 10011994 | Instorage car care. *eh | 02/08/2005 | |
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - SOFTWARE | |||||
| 08089-B | 11/01/2008 | 08089-C | 10027804 | General motors corp: special coverage adjustment; analog onstar deactivation. *pe updated 2/17/09. *pe | 02/09/2009 |
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - WIRING | |||||
| SB-071511 | 06/16/2011 | 10039281 | Ready | 07/15/2011 | |
| SB-071511 | 06/16/2011 | 10039281 | Gm: the wipers, turn signals, and power windows are inoperative. 1999-2009 saab 9-5. *rm | 07/15/2011 | |
Investigations
| NHTSA ID | Manufacturer | Date open | Date close | Subject | Recall campaign | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM | ||||||
| PE05017 | SAAB CARS USA, INC. | 04/07/2005 | 09/23/2005 | ENGINE STALL/ ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES | 06V410000 | |
| Odi opened pe05-017 based on 35 reports of alleged engine stalling due to the failure of the idm cassette on the subject vehicles.all complainants reported that the engine shut down suddenly without warning and most reported that the vehicle would not restart.in 3 incidents, the complainants reported smoke and/or fire resulted from the idm failure.during pe05-017, additional failure data was identified as noted in the failure report summary above.the complaint data represents incidents where the complainants alleged a stall or fire.on september 13, 2005, general motors (gm) notified nhtsa of a safety defect on 95,081 my 2000-2002 saab 9-3 and 9-5 vehicles with 4-cylinder gasoline engines and 8,117 my 2001 9-5 vehicles with 6- cylinder gasoline engines (recall 05v-399).the notification stated that certain vehicles within these populations may experience overheating and burnout of the isolated gated bipolar transistor (igbt) within the idm due to increased susceptibility to electrical loads.overheating of the igbt occurs most often at engine start-up for both a 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder engine, but it may also occur while the engine is running.when the idm fails on a 4-cylinder while it is running, the engine may stall without warning, with no ability to be restarted.when the idm fails on a 6-cylinder engine while it is running, the driver will initially experience reduced power and rough operation because the engine will only be running on three cylinders.the check engine light will flash.if the driver continues, unburnt fuel in the exhaust can cause thermal damage to the catalytic converter.the engine may stall and not restart.thermal damage to other underhood components and the underbody may also result from prolonged driving.the recall population encompasses 84% of the stalling and fire complaints (215 for vehicles with 4-cylinder engines and 36 for vehicles with 6-cylinder engines).the 36 months in service (mis) stalling rates for each model year of recalled vehicles with 4-cylinder engines were all greater than two percent.although the 36 mis stall rate for the recalled my 2001 vehicles with v6 engines was lower, at 1.3 percent, these vehicles also had the highest rate of confirmed (open flame verified) fires at 62 per 100,000 vehicles.gm will instruct owners to bring their vehicles to a dealer for idm inspection and replacement, if necessary.consequently, this investigation is closed.odi will monitor the effectiveness of the scope and remedy of gm's action and take further action if warranted. | ||||||
| PE05017 | SAAB CARS USA, INC. | 04/07/2005 | 09/23/2005 | ENGINE STALL/ ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES | 05V399000 | |
| Odi opened pe05-017 based on 35 reports of alleged engine stalling due to the failure of the idm cassette on the subject vehicles.all complainants reported that the engine shut down suddenly without warning and most reported that the vehicle would not restart.in 3 incidents, the complainants reported smoke and/or fire resulted from the idm failure.during pe05-017, additional failure data was identified as noted in the failure report summary above.the complaint data represents incidents where the complainants alleged a stall or fire.on september 13, 2005, general motors (gm) notified nhtsa of a safety defect on 95,081 my 2000-2002 saab 9-3 and 9-5 vehicles with 4-cylinder gasoline engines and 8,117 my 2001 9-5 vehicles with 6- cylinder gasoline engines (recall 05v-399).the notification stated that certain vehicles within these populations may experience overheating and burnout of the isolated gated bipolar transistor (igbt) within the idm due to increased susceptibility to electrical loads.overheating of the igbt occurs most often at engine start-up for both a 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder engine, but it may also occur while the engine is running.when the idm fails on a 4-cylinder while it is running, the engine may stall without warning, with no ability to be restarted.when the idm fails on a 6-cylinder engine while it is running, the driver will initially experience reduced power and rough operation because the engine will only be running on three cylinders.the check engine light will flash.if the driver continues, unburnt fuel in the exhaust can cause thermal damage to the catalytic converter.the engine may stall and not restart.thermal damage to other underhood components and the underbody may also result from prolonged driving.the recall population encompasses 84% of the stalling and fire complaints (215 for vehicles with 4-cylinder engines and 36 for vehicles with 6-cylinder engines).the 36 months in service (mis) stalling rates for each model year of recalled vehicles with 4-cylinder engines were all greater than two percent.although the 36 mis stall rate for the recalled my 2001 vehicles with v6 engines was lower, at 1.3 percent, these vehicles also had the highest rate of confirmed (open flame verified) fires at 62 per 100,000 vehicles.gm will instruct owners to bring their vehicles to a dealer for idm inspection and replacement, if necessary.consequently, this investigation is closed.odi will monitor the effectiveness of the scope and remedy of gm's action and take further action if warranted. | ||||||
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - IGNITION | ||||||
| PE05017 | SAAB CARS USA, INC. | 04/07/2005 | 09/23/2005 | ENGINE STALL/ ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES | 05V399000 | |
| Odi opened pe05-017 based on 35 reports of alleged engine stalling due to the failure of the idm cassette on the subject vehicles.all complainants reported that the engine shut down suddenly without warning and most reported that the vehicle would not restart.in 3 incidents, the complainants reported smoke and/or fire resulted from the idm failure.during pe05-017, additional failure data was identified as noted in the failure report summary above.the complaint data represents incidents where the complainants alleged a stall or fire.on september 13, 2005, general motors (gm) notified nhtsa of a safety defect on 95,081 my 2000-2002 saab 9-3 and 9-5 vehicles with 4-cylinder gasoline engines and 8,117 my 2001 9-5 vehicles with 6- cylinder gasoline engines (recall 05v-399).the notification stated that certain vehicles within these populations may experience overheating and burnout of the isolated gated bipolar transistor (igbt) within the idm due to increased susceptibility to electrical loads.overheating of the igbt occurs most often at engine start-up for both a 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder engine, but it may also occur while the engine is running.when the idm fails on a 4-cylinder while it is running, the engine may stall without warning, with no ability to be restarted.when the idm fails on a 6-cylinder engine while it is running, the driver will initially experience reduced power and rough operation because the engine will only be running on three cylinders.the check engine light will flash.if the driver continues, unburnt fuel in the exhaust can cause thermal damage to the catalytic converter.the engine may stall and not restart.thermal damage to other underhood components and the underbody may also result from prolonged driving.the recall population encompasses 84% of the stalling and fire complaints (215 for vehicles with 4-cylinder engines and 36 for vehicles with 6-cylinder engines).the 36 months in service (mis) stalling rates for each model year of recalled vehicles with 4-cylinder engines were all greater than two percent.although the 36 mis stall rate for the recalled my 2001 vehicles with v6 engines was lower, at 1.3 percent, these vehicles also had the highest rate of confirmed (open flame verified) fires at 62 per 100,000 vehicles.gm will instruct owners to bring their vehicles to a dealer for idm inspection and replacement, if necessary.consequently, this investigation is closed.odi will monitor the effectiveness of the scope and remedy of gm's action and take further action if warranted. | ||||||
| PE05017 | SAAB CARS USA, INC. | 04/07/2005 | 09/23/2005 | ENGINE STALL/ ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES | 06V410000 | |
| Odi opened pe05-017 based on 35 reports of alleged engine stalling due to the failure of the idm cassette on the subject vehicles.all complainants reported that the engine shut down suddenly without warning and most reported that the vehicle would not restart.in 3 incidents, the complainants reported smoke and/or fire resulted from the idm failure.during pe05-017, additional failure data was identified as noted in the failure report summary above.the complaint data represents incidents where the complainants alleged a stall or fire.on september 13, 2005, general motors (gm) notified nhtsa of a safety defect on 95,081 my 2000-2002 saab 9-3 and 9-5 vehicles with 4-cylinder gasoline engines and 8,117 my 2001 9-5 vehicles with 6- cylinder gasoline engines (recall 05v-399).the notification stated that certain vehicles within these populations may experience overheating and burnout of the isolated gated bipolar transistor (igbt) within the idm due to increased susceptibility to electrical loads.overheating of the igbt occurs most often at engine start-up for both a 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder engine, but it may also occur while the engine is running.when the idm fails on a 4-cylinder while it is running, the engine may stall without warning, with no ability to be restarted.when the idm fails on a 6-cylinder engine while it is running, the driver will initially experience reduced power and rough operation because the engine will only be running on three cylinders.the check engine light will flash.if the driver continues, unburnt fuel in the exhaust can cause thermal damage to the catalytic converter.the engine may stall and not restart.thermal damage to other underhood components and the underbody may also result from prolonged driving.the recall population encompasses 84% of the stalling and fire complaints (215 for vehicles with 4-cylinder engines and 36 for vehicles with 6-cylinder engines).the 36 months in service (mis) stalling rates for each model year of recalled vehicles with 4-cylinder engines were all greater than two percent.although the 36 mis stall rate for the recalled my 2001 vehicles with v6 engines was lower, at 1.3 percent, these vehicles also had the highest rate of confirmed (open flame verified) fires at 62 per 100,000 vehicles.gm will instruct owners to bring their vehicles to a dealer for idm inspection and replacement, if necessary.consequently, this investigation is closed.odi will monitor the effectiveness of the scope and remedy of gm's action and take further action if warranted. | ||||||
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - IGNITION - MODULE | ||||||
| PE05017 | SAAB CARS USA, INC. | 04/07/2005 | 09/23/2005 | ENGINE STALL/ ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES | 06V410000 | |
| Odi opened pe05-017 based on 35 reports of alleged engine stalling due to the failure of the idm cassette on the subject vehicles.all complainants reported that the engine shut down suddenly without warning and most reported that the vehicle would not restart.in 3 incidents, the complainants reported smoke and/or fire resulted from the idm failure.during pe05-017, additional failure data was identified as noted in the failure report summary above.the complaint data represents incidents where the complainants alleged a stall or fire.on september 13, 2005, general motors (gm) notified nhtsa of a safety defect on 95,081 my 2000-2002 saab 9-3 and 9-5 vehicles with 4-cylinder gasoline engines and 8,117 my 2001 9-5 vehicles with 6- cylinder gasoline engines (recall 05v-399).the notification stated that certain vehicles within these populations may experience overheating and burnout of the isolated gated bipolar transistor (igbt) within the idm due to increased susceptibility to electrical loads.overheating of the igbt occurs most often at engine start-up for both a 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder engine, but it may also occur while the engine is running.when the idm fails on a 4-cylinder while it is running, the engine may stall without warning, with no ability to be restarted.when the idm fails on a 6-cylinder engine while it is running, the driver will initially experience reduced power and rough operation because the engine will only be running on three cylinders.the check engine light will flash.if the driver continues, unburnt fuel in the exhaust can cause thermal damage to the catalytic converter.the engine may stall and not restart.thermal damage to other underhood components and the underbody may also result from prolonged driving.the recall population encompasses 84% of the stalling and fire complaints (215 for vehicles with 4-cylinder engines and 36 for vehicles with 6-cylinder engines).the 36 months in service (mis) stalling rates for each model year of recalled vehicles with 4-cylinder engines were all greater than two percent.although the 36 mis stall rate for the recalled my 2001 vehicles with v6 engines was lower, at 1.3 percent, these vehicles also had the highest rate of confirmed (open flame verified) fires at 62 per 100,000 vehicles.gm will instruct owners to bring their vehicles to a dealer for idm inspection and replacement, if necessary.consequently, this investigation is closed.odi will monitor the effectiveness of the scope and remedy of gm's action and take further action if warranted. | ||||||
| PE05017 | SAAB CARS USA, INC. | 04/07/2005 | 09/23/2005 | ENGINE STALL/ ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES | 05V399000 | |
| Odi opened pe05-017 based on 35 reports of alleged engine stalling due to the failure of the idm cassette on the subject vehicles.all complainants reported that the engine shut down suddenly without warning and most reported that the vehicle would not restart.in 3 incidents, the complainants reported smoke and/or fire resulted from the idm failure.during pe05-017, additional failure data was identified as noted in the failure report summary above.the complaint data represents incidents where the complainants alleged a stall or fire.on september 13, 2005, general motors (gm) notified nhtsa of a safety defect on 95,081 my 2000-2002 saab 9-3 and 9-5 vehicles with 4-cylinder gasoline engines and 8,117 my 2001 9-5 vehicles with 6- cylinder gasoline engines (recall 05v-399).the notification stated that certain vehicles within these populations may experience overheating and burnout of the isolated gated bipolar transistor (igbt) within the idm due to increased susceptibility to electrical loads.overheating of the igbt occurs most often at engine start-up for both a 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder engine, but it may also occur while the engine is running.when the idm fails on a 4-cylinder while it is running, the engine may stall without warning, with no ability to be restarted.when the idm fails on a 6-cylinder engine while it is running, the driver will initially experience reduced power and rough operation because the engine will only be running on three cylinders.the check engine light will flash.if the driver continues, unburnt fuel in the exhaust can cause thermal damage to the catalytic converter.the engine may stall and not restart.thermal damage to other underhood components and the underbody may also result from prolonged driving.the recall population encompasses 84% of the stalling and fire complaints (215 for vehicles with 4-cylinder engines and 36 for vehicles with 6-cylinder engines).the 36 months in service (mis) stalling rates for each model year of recalled vehicles with 4-cylinder engines were all greater than two percent.although the 36 mis stall rate for the recalled my 2001 vehicles with v6 engines was lower, at 1.3 percent, these vehicles also had the highest rate of confirmed (open flame verified) fires at 62 per 100,000 vehicles.gm will instruct owners to bring their vehicles to a dealer for idm inspection and replacement, if necessary.consequently, this investigation is closed.odi will monitor the effectiveness of the scope and remedy of gm's action and take further action if warranted. | ||||||
Consumer Complaints
| Fail date | miles | occurences | Purchase date |
|---|---|---|---|
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM | |||
| 06/04/2010 | 103000 | ||
| Tl-the contact owns a 2002 saab 9.5. while driving at 40mph the engine stops. there is a lost of the power steering and brakes. as the vehicle is pull to the side of the road for a few minutes the engine would restart. the dealer was call stating there is a recall but his vin was not included. there is an existing recall saab recall#05087. the dealer also stated they will replaced the electrical system ignition module but at his expense. the manufacturer was also call and stated his vin was not included in the recall and he would have to pay for the repairs. the failure and current mileage was 103,000....mw | |||
| 08/15/2007 | 1 | ||
| We have a complaint regarding recall 05v399000 for our 2002 saab 9-5 aero. our idm serial number falls within those required to be replaced by the recall. however, saab will not replace it because our vin # does not fall within their recall. our idm needs to be replaced. this does not make sense. our saab was delivered in germany (it is us spec) to a servicemember stationed there. we bought it used while stationed over there. no recall notices were sent to us over there. we just started getting recall notices once we shipped the car to the states. we had to provide our certificate of origin to saab. saab told us they had no idea our car existed until we gave them the certificate of origin (which sounds fishy). this recall was issued before we moved back to the states. our dealers service department says our idm serial number and the problem with it fall within the recall. but saab will not reimburse them for replacing it. *tr | |||
| 02/27/2009 | 5000 | 1 | |
| 2002 saab 9-5 has had failure of headlight bulbs at a rate of one or two per year from the very first year i have owned this car. no other bulb has burned out in the past 8 yr. a local garage mechanic told me it was related to a faulty front electrical harness in the saab but the dealer said this was not a recall, even though it has been a problem from the first year of ownership. now i have 2 headlight bulbs burning out within one day of each other -- one high beam, one regular. is there a recall of electrical harness on saabs to correct frequent headlight bulb burnout? so far i have just been replacing the bulbs at $50/bulb at the rate of one or two per year. *tr | |||
| 05/15/2008 | 69500 | 1 | |
| Loss of reversing lights, trunk opening warning light and cruise control function with no internal warning indications. upon investigation, the cause was the failure of trunk wiring harness at 70k miles - 2 wires were completely severed, all others (6) had lost insulation. failure is at the folding point just prior to entry into the trunk lid. cause appears to be excessive tightness of the interior wires. the rubber boot was entirely intact, sealed to connectors in the body and trunk lid and there was no visible indication of the internal failure. wires are separate inside the boot up until the trunk lid entry where they are wrapped with electrical tape. this was discovered only during service, not reported by self-check display which always reports light bulb outages in text messages on the 2 line saab information display (secondary failure). prior to discovery a number of cars had almost rear ended the car when backing up (reversing light failure was not reported or known). corrected temporarily by splicing in wires and heat wrapping, waiting for appointment with the saab dealer to replace the harness. *tr | |||
| 10/26/2006 | 77314 | 2 | 02/11/2005 |
| Fuel system, gasoline:delivery:hoses, lines/piping, and fittings summary: driving on highway, pressure line from fuel tank came loose and started leaking massive amounts of gas all over the underside of the vehicle and street. stream of fuel on highway alerted driver. lost unknown amount of gallons of gas quickly . had to pull over and call for tow truck to take to nearest facility. i evacuated the car due to large amounts of gas under vehicle and streams of fuel near hot exhaust pipes. technician discovered fuel line had come loose after looking inside port from under back seat. no evidence of any breakage or other issues the first event-- the line simply came loose and was easily re-attached. the second event happened in june 2007 and fuel again was pouring out from the underside in a parking lot. i called the same independent dealer who immediately had the car towed . this time the repair was done with metal straps to prevent any further coming apart. i then received a recall letter from saab after this occurrence two times. i was told by saab usa to submit repair orders for reimbursement which i did. i received a denial letter until an authorized saab dealer could check the work completed by the independent dealer. i was called by the authorized dealer in marietta, ga and told that i may need a complete fuel assembly for $1100 due to the independent dealers repairs affecting electrical wiring. the car is at the dealer for investigation and hopefully a saab usa will stand behind the needed repairs. consultation on internet chat room saabnet.com finds that at least 4 other owners of similar vintage saab 9-5 vehicles have experienced this same problem. saab usa is questioning my repairs at the independent dealer. *tr | |||
| 09/13/2003 | 8511 | 13 | 08/21/2003 |
| On 13 occasions over the last two years, starting 9/13/03, the car's engine malfunction and automatic transmission fault warning lights came on and the car was automatically put in limp-home mode. in limp-home mode, the engine is depowered. this has happened when driving both on the highway and in the city, creating a very dangerous situation where the car is in the middle of traffic with little power to manuever. the dealership has attempted to repair this 12 times without success. vehicle is leased. *jb | |||
| 07/29/2005 | 9 | 11/29/2001 | |
| On multiple occasions starting around june or july 2003 and through july 2005, the vehicle stalled while in operation (going 35 to 40 mph and within two miles of starting) causing a sudden loss of power, brakes, and steering. fortunately, it was possible to coast the car to the side of the road without being struck. the vehicle was taken back to the dealer, hunt valley saab, on at least three occasions. on one occasion, the crank sensor was replaced. on one occasion, additional software for the engine management system was uploaded. on one occasion, the mass air flow sensor and air mass meter. each time i was told the car was fixed, and each time the car failed again. obviously, the car was not repaired. | |||
| 01/24/2005 | 35000 | 3 | 03/22/2002 |
| Direct ignition cartridge failures. on three occasions my car has suddenly stopped with no warnings. fortunately in each case i was able to get to the side of the road safely. in each case the dealer has replaced the cartridge calling it defective. i am not on my fourth cartridge in 35,000 miles.*ak | |||
| 12/08/2004 | 43041 | 1 | 03/23/2002 |
| My 2002 saab 9-5 stalled and would not restart in the middle of a very busy 4 lane road. i have also noticed there are 14 other complaints on the nhtsa website with the same problem as mine. this an extremely dangerous problem a vehicle stalling on a highway or anywhere else can result in a crash or death. there was no prior warning of said issue. saab dealer found code p1310 referred to tsb248-2428 and reprogrammed the sps. new #5387691 completed idm test and found current status 141 idd check code 57047. located as an internal fault in the idm and also found the spark plugs fouled. replaced idm and spark plugs. direct ignition cassette. a tsb means that saab knows about this problem. i feel unsafe getting into my vehicle now. *jb | |||
| 11/07/2003 | 43000 | 1 | 02/02/2002 |
| Car failed at 70 miles/hour on expressway. just stopped. cause was diagnosed as direct ignition cassette-web search shows this to be a common saab problem. was quite terrifying and dangerous to lose power on expressway-definite safety hazard. *ak | |||
| 08/02/2004 | 22000 | 6 | 08/08/2002 |
| March 25,'04, june 3,o4,june 10, 'o4;july 21'o4;aug 2,'04: traveling along highway keeping up with the flow of traffic (65 mph) when a sudden and complete loss of power occurs necessitating emergency avoidance procedures to advert serious multi-car crash. dealership,smithtown saab (530 east jericho tpke, smithtown,ny,117870) says it's fixed -5 times. not. saab usa refuses to do anything despite my numerous calls. car is a 2002 saab 9-5,with 27,000 mles,under warranty.*ak | |||
| 06/09/2004 | 25600 | 5 | 08/06/2002 |
| In the last week- june 2,2004 to june 9th,2004-my car, a saab 9.5 has suddenly and without warning lost power , the emergency lights on the dashboard came on, and i had all i could to narrowly advoiding a three car collision. is there a previous safety defect complaint on this car? *ak | |||
| 05/14/2004 | 27700 | 2 | 06/29/2002 |
| While driving the vehicle 40+mph, the engine completely shut down without warning. the diagnosis, throttle failure. saab replaced the throtte body on 05/14/2004. then again on 05/17/2004, the engine shut down in the midst of driving without warning. the engine light came on. saab has not been able to duplicate the problem. the car has proven to be extremely dangerous and unsafe to operate. *ak | |||
| 02/01/2004 | 7209 | 3 | 09/24/2002 |
| On three occasions i have gotten a check engine light with a transmission or coolant amplifying light. on both occasions the car went into a limp mode as defined in the saab handbook. two items, a temp sensor and thermostat were replaced without the problem being fixed. today's fix is a programming update (ecm programming). don't know if this will fix the problem but beginning to think the car has a basic flaw and don't want to take trips in it. *jb | |||
| 01/31/2003 | 25000 | 1 | 05/01/2002 |
| Driving at steady 65 mph, car suddenly lost power, and engine stopped after i pulled to side of interstate.diagnosed as failed direct ignition cassette and replaced by dealer.*ak | |||
| 08/12/2003 | 3 | ||
| On 3 separate occasions the car has completely shut down, losing brakes, steering, power, etc. the 1st at 70 mph on freeway, the 2nd on city st. about 35 mph and the 3rd in my neighborhood at 20 mph. saab has replaced 3 different things. the car is too unpredictable and unsafe for driving. *nlm | |||
| 02/10/2003 | 25000 | 1 | 02/01/2002 |
| The vehicle stalled without warning, the dealer diagnosed the direct ignition cassette failed. *jb scc | |||
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - IGNITION | |||
| 01/24/2005 | 35000 | 3 | 03/22/2002 |
| Direct ignition cartridge failures. on three occasions my car has suddenly stopped with no warnings. fortunately in each case i was able to get to the side of the road safely. in each case the dealer has replaced the cartridge calling it defective. i am not on my fourth cartridge in 35,000 miles.*ak | |||
| 12/08/2004 | 43041 | 1 | 03/23/2002 |
| My 2002 saab 9-5 stalled and would not restart in the middle of a very busy 4 lane road. i have also noticed there are 14 other complaints on the nhtsa website with the same problem as mine. this an extremely dangerous problem a vehicle stalling on a highway or anywhere else can result in a crash or death. there was no prior warning of said issue. saab dealer found code p1310 referred to tsb248-2428 and reprogrammed the sps. new #5387691 completed idm test and found current status 141 idd check code 57047. located as an internal fault in the idm and also found the spark plugs fouled. replaced idm and spark plugs. direct ignition cassette. a tsb means that saab knows about this problem. i feel unsafe getting into my vehicle now. *jb | |||
| 11/07/2003 | 43000 | 1 | 02/02/2002 |
| Car failed at 70 miles/hour on expressway. just stopped. cause was diagnosed as direct ignition cassette-web search shows this to be a common saab problem. was quite terrifying and dangerous to lose power on expressway-definite safety hazard. *ak | |||
| 01/31/2003 | 25000 | 1 | 05/01/2002 |
| Driving at steady 65 mph, car suddenly lost power, and engine stopped after i pulled to side of interstate.diagnosed as failed direct ignition cassette and replaced by dealer.*ak | |||
| 08/12/2003 | 3 | ||
| On 3 separate occasions the car has completely shut down, losing brakes, steering, power, etc. the 1st at 70 mph on freeway, the 2nd on city st. about 35 mph and the 3rd in my neighborhood at 20 mph. saab has replaced 3 different things. the car is too unpredictable and unsafe for driving. *nlm | |||
| 02/10/2003 | 25000 | 1 | 02/01/2002 |
| The vehicle stalled without warning, the dealer diagnosed the direct ignition cassette failed. *jb scc | |||
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - IGNITION - MODULE | |||
| 08/15/2007 | 1 | ||
| We have a complaint regarding recall 05v399000 for our 2002 saab 9-5 aero. our idm serial number falls within those required to be replaced by the recall. however, saab will not replace it because our vin # does not fall within their recall. our idm needs to be replaced. this does not make sense. our saab was delivered in germany (it is us spec) to a servicemember stationed there. we bought it used while stationed over there. no recall notices were sent to us over there. we just started getting recall notices once we shipped the car to the states. we had to provide our certificate of origin to saab. saab told us they had no idea our car existed until we gave them the certificate of origin (which sounds fishy). this recall was issued before we moved back to the states. our dealers service department says our idm serial number and the problem with it fall within the recall. but saab will not reimburse them for replacing it. *tr | |||
| 09/15/2006 | 71000 | 1 | 04/10/2002 |
| Leaving the i-287 in nj friday around 3.30 pm the car started to loose power by not responding to any throttle pressure. i pulled over to the right hand side as soon as i could and came to a faltering halt on the exit ramp. i turned the ignition off and on again to see if any warning display information was given. i looked under the bonnet but could see no sign of any leakage or excess heat. i got back in and started it again and it fired up but only with little power and would hardly rev up. i wanted to move forward off of the exit ramp as i was in a very dangerous position on a fast uphill gradual 90 degree two lane ramp with no shoulder, there was traffic coming constantly, it was friday afternoon and pouring with rain. when ever i put it into gear it would start to move but as it was uphill it was not very productive. i gave up after the engine stalled and would not start again, but did manage to get the car as close to the right hand barriers as possible so that traffic could pass me without straddling lanes. i called my local garage who arranged for a breakdown truck to come and get me. in the 45 mins it took to for them to get me i was extremely nervous that a truck or fast car would hit into the rear of my car, so i had the hazard lights on and kept my foot on the brake to illuminate the brake lights. it was a dangerous position to be in and the traffic was building quickly for the evening rush. the tow truck got to me at around 4.30 pm and took me and the car to my local garage. the garage diagnosed the idm units as failed, and replaced them. once i had the car back, the very next day the check engine light came on and this has been identified as being the catalytic converter being faulty, which i understand is a result of the ignition units failing and unburned fuel being pumped in to the unit. *jb | |||
| 08/21/2006 | 82830 | 1 | 01/15/2004 |
| We have a 2002 saab 9.5 (6 cylinder engine) which had a di cassette failure-lead to car losing acceleration on the expressway and ultimately requiring police assistance. di cassette failure lead to catalytic converter failing as well. car is not part of recall and saab won't pay as a result. *jb | |||
| 08/12/2006 | 59518 | 1 | 04/29/2002 |
| August 12, 2006 our 2002 saab 9-5 sportwagon caught fire. returning home from vacation the check engine light displayed. information in the owner's manual and a phone call to our saab dealer lead us to believe that the car was safe to drive. as we approached the toll plaza in mays landing, nj the car stalled and began to smoke. we evacuated the car. toll personnel extinguished the fire and summoned the laureldale fire company and the nj state police. the action taken by the toll personnel prevented a potential disaster. the car was towed to an impound lot in egg harbor ctiy, nj . after a few hours we were able to arrange fora rental to transport us and our vacation baggage home. at this time we did not know the extend of damage to the car other than it could not be driven to our home and it was a saturday. the closest saab dealer in cherry hill, nj was not open for service calls. we arrived home 5 hours later than expected with a rental car that cost $125/day and $0.20 a mile + gas. we droveback to nj in the morning to return the rental because we did not want to incur any unnecessary expenses. sunday august 13 we traveled back to galloway, nj to return the rental vehicle. this fire should not have occurred and saab should pick up any expenses relating to a car fire of a 2002 vehicle with 59,518 miles. the car has been repaired, we picked it up from the dealer in cherry hill, nj august 19, 2006. repairsr were covered by saab along with the towing to the dealership. the failure of two ignition cassettes caused a fire in the catalytic converter, damaging the converter, exhaust pipe, and mounts. saab has not explained why the mechanical failure caused the fire and has given us no assurance that it will not happen again. saab has declined to pay the additional cost we incurred which total less than $500.00 we filed a complaint with saab customer service and a claim with our insurance carrier. | |||
| 06/21/2006 | 81285 | 1 | 06/30/2002 |
| I was driving in traffic when my engine started to stall and lost power. i noticed a burning smell coming from the engine compartment. i pulled the car over and could not re-start it. it was towed to the dealer who diagnosed a failed ignition module. my car is a 2002 saab 9-5 and had been re-called because of failures of this component. however, despite the fact that the car engine was of the type that should have been covered by the recall, when saab notified its' dealers it limited the modules to be replaced to only certain serial numbers. this, despite the fact that according to nhtsa all engines not having the qp3 modification, which my car does not, should have been re-called. thus, saab refuses to pay for replacement of the part even though it is the same part that was failing and prompted the recall initially. i believe that this is a hazard due to the overheating of the part which led to stalling and could have started a fire. saab should not be allowed to limit the serial numbers replaced because other serial numbers appear to have the same defect. *jb consumer called on 9/12/06 to report a second idm failure incident that occurred on 8/18/06. the following is per a conversation w/ mrs. alder on 9/14/06: during this incident, his wife was driving the vehicle on the highway in heavy traffic when the vehicle started to lose power. as she was pulling off the hwy, she smelt a burning smell and saw smoke coming into the car. pulled over and started to call husband when she saw flames coming from underneath the front of the vehicle. fire department put out fire and vehicle was towed. she reported that the dealer said her catalytic converter had burned. *car | |||
| 04/20/2006 | 76000 | 1 | 07/26/2005 |
| I would like to cite nhtsa campaign #05v399000. while driving my 2002 saab 9-5 6 cylinder on 4/20/2006 i began to experience rough operation and reduced power of the engine. i was a short distance from my destination where i parked thinking i would need to be towed. at first i thought my car was overheating because there seemed to be steam coming from under the hood but there was an odd smell. i went into the coffee shop i was visiting and within a minute or two i turned to check on my car and i saw that the interior was filled with smoke. i went outside and noticed sparks and flames coming from under the vehicle in the area of the back seat and i immediately called the fire department. they arrived and put out the fire under the car and in the back seat where the flames had burned through the carpet. i called a tow service and went back into the store to finish my coffee and wait for the tow truck. when i came back out i noticed that there was still smoke coming from under the hood so i called the fire department again to put out the remnants of the fire. the car was then towed to the nearest saab dealer which is in gainesville, florida, about 40 miles away. later that day i called the dealer to ask about the above referenced recall which i had discovered on the internet, and they told me that my particular car was not covered. in the letter of acknowledgement dated september 13, 2005 from gm to the nthsa, gm states that a sustained vehicle fire is unlikely and gm knows of none. due to the exactness of my situation and the recall, i can only assume that gm now has at least one fire on record. *jb | |||
| 03/12/2006 | 53674 | 1 | |
| Dt*: the contact stated the vehicle completely stalled while driving 20 mph. it was towed to the contact's home and then towed to the dealer. they determined the ignition module failed resulting in vehicle stalling and produce damage to other engine parts. the module, spark plugs and the catalytic converter were replaced which appears to remedy the problem. there is a nhtsa recall, # 05v399000 regarding the ignition module. the vehicle has the same problems as indicated in the recall; however it is not included in the recall due to the vin. updated 04/06/06. *jb | |||
| 02/01/2006 | 71940 | 1 | 04/13/2002 |
| Dt*: the contact stated while driving 40mph in normal conditions, the engine light illuminated and the vehicle smelled hot. the vehicle was pulled to the side of the road for inspection and the engine turned off. however, the vehicle immediately restarted. the vehicle was driven to a service station where oil was added to the engine. the contact decided to have the vehicle towed to the dealer for additional inspection. the dealer performed diagnostic testing and determined the vehicle displayed an internal open circuit in the ignition. the dealer replaced the ignition module and the vehicle performed normally. | |||
| 02/10/2006 | 61000 | 1 | 08/16/2002 |
| Dt*: the contact stated while driving 30 mph the engine stalled without warning. there is a nhtsa recall, # 05v399000, regarding the electrical system ignition module. the vehicle has the same problems as indicated in the recall; however it is not included in the recall due to the vin. | |||
| 01/24/2005 | 35000 | 3 | 03/22/2002 |
| Direct ignition cartridge failures. on three occasions my car has suddenly stopped with no warnings. fortunately in each case i was able to get to the side of the road safely. in each case the dealer has replaced the cartridge calling it defective. i am not on my fourth cartridge in 35,000 miles.*ak | |||
| 12/08/2004 | 43041 | 1 | 03/23/2002 |
| My 2002 saab 9-5 stalled and would not restart in the middle of a very busy 4 lane road. i have also noticed there are 14 other complaints on the nhtsa website with the same problem as mine. this an extremely dangerous problem a vehicle stalling on a highway or anywhere else can result in a crash or death. there was no prior warning of said issue. saab dealer found code p1310 referred to tsb248-2428 and reprogrammed the sps. new #5387691 completed idm test and found current status 141 idd check code 57047. located as an internal fault in the idm and also found the spark plugs fouled. replaced idm and spark plugs. direct ignition cassette. a tsb means that saab knows about this problem. i feel unsafe getting into my vehicle now. *jb | |||
| 11/07/2003 | 43000 | 1 | 02/02/2002 |
| Car failed at 70 miles/hour on expressway. just stopped. cause was diagnosed as direct ignition cassette-web search shows this to be a common saab problem. was quite terrifying and dangerous to lose power on expressway-definite safety hazard. *ak | |||
| 01/31/2003 | 25000 | 1 | 05/01/2002 |
| Driving at steady 65 mph, car suddenly lost power, and engine stopped after i pulled to side of interstate.diagnosed as failed direct ignition cassette and replaced by dealer.*ak | |||
| 02/10/2003 | 25000 | 1 | 02/01/2002 |
| The vehicle stalled without warning, the dealer diagnosed the direct ignition cassette failed. *jb scc | |||
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - IGNITION - SWITCH | |||
| 10/07/2005 | 46000 | 4 | 01/01/2002 |
| Dt: contact stated the engine will shut off while driving. there are no warning lights or signs indicating a problem. when this happens there is no power steering or acceleration. the service dealer can not duplicate the problem. , therefore, can not repair the problem. they are going to attempt to find the problem on november 11, 2005. the manufacturer sent a regional manager, and he said it could be the ignition switch. the ignition switch was replaced, but it did not correct the problem. *ak | |||