Thomas Built Buses C2 2007
Model C2 made in 2007 by Thomas Built Buses got 15 consumer complains, 3 investigations there are 6 recalls as well as 5 service bulletins. Consumer complaints with reference, among others things, to engine and engine cooling, exterior lighting and parking brake. Technical service bulletines regarding latches/locks/linkages, structure and unknown or other. The car had some investigations: electrical system, service brakes, hydraulic. There were some recalls concerningequipment adaptive, other and parking brake.
Model 2007
Recalls
| Campaign | Manufacturer | Manufacturing date | Type | # of units affected | Date Owner notified Mfg | Recall Initiated by | Manufacturers of recalled vehicles/products | Report Recieved Date | Record Creation Date | Regulation Part Number | FMVSS Number | |||||
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| EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE | ||||||||||||||||
| 08V430000 | DAIMLER TRUCKS NORTH AMERICA | from 03/07/2005 to 05/27/2008 | V (Vehicle) | 1419 | 11/26/2008 | MFR | FREIGHTLINER LLC | 08/25/2008 | 08/25/2008 | 571 | 404 | |||||
| Defect Summary | Daimler trucks is recalling 2,160 my 2006 through 2008 thomas built school buses and recreational vehicle chassis manufactured between march 7, 2005 and may 27, 2008, equipped with ricon platform style wheelchair lifts. these buses fail to comply with the requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 404, platform lift installations in motor vehicles. the threshold warning system may not detect the presence of a wheelchair or mobility aid user in a certain spot within the defined threshold area. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | The user of the lift could be injured should the lift move unintentionally. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Thomas built is working with ricon to correct the wheelchair lifts free of charge (please see 07e095). the recall began on november 26, 2008. owners may contact ricon at 1-818-267-3000 or thomas built 1-336-889-4871. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Dailmer trucks' recall no. fl-536.customers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
| 07V135000 | FREIGHTLINER LLC | from 01/06/2006 to 09/06/2006 | V (Vehicle) | 329 | 08/06/2007 | MFR | FREIGHTLINER LLC | 03/23/2007 | 03/23/2007 | 571 | 404 | |||||
| Defect Summary | Certain my 2006 and 2007 thomas built minotour, fs-65, c2, hdx, and ef school buses manufactured between january 6 and september 6, 2006, equipped with ricon wheelchair platform lift models s2003, s2005, s2010, s5503, s5505, s5510, k2003, k2005, k2010, k5503, k5505, k5510. the lifts interlock switch system may not detect the presence of a passenger (either wheelchair or standee) on the platform lift which fails to conform to federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 404, platform lift systems for motor vehicles. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | The defect involves the interlock switch system in the lift not detecting the presence of a passenger (either wheelchair or standee) on the ricon wheelchair platform lift. in the event this condition occurs during passenger operations it may be possible for the wheelchair to tip backwards onto the platform when the platform was lowered. this could result in injury to the wheelchair | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Freightliner will notify owners and will repair the affected buses free of charge. the recall is expected to begin on august 6, 2007. owners can contact freightliner's customer assistance center at 800-385-4357 or contact ricon at 800-322-2884. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Freightliner recall no. fl-492.customers may contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty: 1-800-424-9153); or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
| 08V432000 | DAIMLER TRUCKS NORTH AMERICA | from 03/09/2005 to 02/23/2007 | V (Vehicle) | 1046 | 11/26/2008 | MFR | FREIGHTLINER LLC | 08/25/2008 | 08/26/2008 | 571 | 404 | |||||
| Defect Summary | Daimler trucks is recalling 2,250 my 2006 and 2007 thomas built minotour, fs65, c2, hdx, and mvp ef school buses and recreational vehicle chassis manufactured between march 9, 2005 and february 23, 2007, equipped with ricon s or k series wheelchair lifts. the anti-stow interlock may not detect the presence of a wheelchair or mobility aid user. the pressure sensing switch that detects the presence of weight on the platform was not adjusted to the necessary sensitivity level. the lift could stow even though someone or something is still on the lift which fails to comply with federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 404, platform lift installations in motor vehicles. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | A lift occupant can be injured should the lift begin to stow unintentionally. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Daimler trucks is working with ricon to correct the wheelchair lifts (please see 07e097). the recall began on november 26, 2008. owners may contact ricon at 1-800-322-2884 or thomas built at 1-336-889-4871. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Daimler trucks' recall no. fl-537.customers may contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty: 1-800-424-9153); or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
| OTHER - SCHOOL BUS STOP ARM ASSEMBLY | ||||||||||||||||
| 07V002000 | FREIGHTLINER LLC | from 12/21/2005 to 09/04/2006 | V (Vehicle) | 1441 | 01/29/2007 | MFR | FREIGHTLINER LLC | 01/04/2007 | 01/04/2007 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | Certain thomas built 2006 and 2007 c2 school buses manufactured between december 21, 2005, and september 4, 2006. the inlet air fitting welded to the base plate was manufactured inconsistently, possibly allowing the fitting to separate. separation of the inlet fitting will prevent the actuating air from powering the crossing arm and may not deploy. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | A non-deploying crossing arm allows some student passengers to not be visible to the driver as they cross in front of the bus during pick-up or discharge, present a risk to them. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Thomas built will notify owners and repair the buses free of charge. the recall began on january 28, 2007. owners may call thomas built at 336-889-4871 or contact freightliner at 800-547-0712. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Freightliner recall no fl-488.customers may contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty: 1-800-424-9153); or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
| 06V496000 | FREIGHTLINER LLC | from 12/21/2005 to 09/04/2006 | V (Vehicle) | 2108 | 03/29/2007 | MFR | FREIGHTLINER LLC | 12/29/2006 | 12/29/2006 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | Certain thomas built 2006 and 2007 c2 school buses manufactured between december 21, 2005, and september 4, 2006. the stop arm may not deploy. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | A non-deploying stop arm may encourage motorists to pass the school bus during pick-up or discharge of children, possibly resulting in serious injury. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Thomas built will notify owners and repair the buses free of charge. the recall will begin on march 29, 2007. owners may call thomas built at 336-889-4871 or owners may contact freightliner at 800-547-0712. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Freightliner recall no. fl-487.customers may contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty: 1-800-424-9153); or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
| PARKING BRAKE - CONVENTIONAL - AIR | ||||||||||||||||
| 06V205000 | FREIGHTLINER LLC | from 04/01/2006 to 05/26/2006 | V (Vehicle) | 5243 | 06/28/2006 | MFR | FREIGHTLINER LLC | 06/12/2006 | 06/12/2006 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | Certain heavy trucks, shuttle buses, and school buses equipped with bendix modulated spring brake valves. a defect in the modulated spring brake valve casting may cause an intermittent delay in the application of the park brake. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | The vehicle may rollaway without warning, possibly causing personal injury. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Freightliner will notify owners and replace the defective valves free of charge. the recall began on june 28, 2006 to freightliner, sterling, and fccc owners. thomas built mailed letters to owners beginning july 27, 2006. this recall has been superseded (replaced) by recall 07v302 (fl-504). | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Freightliner recall no. fl-477.customers may contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty: 1-800-424-9153); or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
Bulletins
| Bulletin | Bulletin date | Replacement Bulletin | Item no. | Summary | Added |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| LATCHES/LOCKS/LINKAGES | |||||
| SB-13R2 | 04/27/2009 | 10030786 | Thomas bus: the latch enclosures on the pre-new generation windows breaking. currently only way to get this part is to buy a complete slider assembly. the current method of repair is to remove the entire window, remove the window header, | 12/02/2009 | |
| STRUCTURE - BODY - DOOR - HINGE AND ATTACHMENTS | |||||
| 11 | 10/04/2007 | 11R2 | 10022960 | Hex shaft breakage. c2, with air door (model year unknown). *nj updated 5/13/08. *nj | 10/09/2007 |
| STRUCTURE - FRAME AND MEMBERS | |||||
| PSB-14 | 08/03/2011 | 10041424 | Thomas built: instructions regarding installation for window trim. not for cracks projcting through side member to outside window frame. *pe | 10/03/2011 | |
| UNKNOWN OR OTHER | |||||
| 6A5 | 04/15/2008 | 10025784 | Thomas built: spectal vertical push-out window switch; reports of the switches on the c2 vertical push-out emergency windows getting out of adjustment causing he alarm to activate. unknown model years. *pe | 09/06/2008 | |
| 7R3 | 02/18/2008 | 10024633 | Thomas built buses -- switch hub module repositioning - to prevent water intrusion. all units from start of production date of 12/1/03 through 5/14/07. model c2. *nj | 04/30/2008 | |
Investigations
| NHTSA ID | Manufacturer | Date open | Date close | Subject | Recall campaign | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM | ||||||
| PE11031 | FREIGHTLINER LLC | 09/12/2011 | Body Battery Post Corrosion | |||
| Odi received a complaint regarding a corroded battery post located behind a service panel near the driver's seat on a 2006 thomas built c2 school bus.this corrosion is believed to have caused a fire on the vehicle.reviewing pictures of similar buses in the fleet, and an odi inspection of a second fleet, found significant corrosion is possible on these buses.this corrosion can create a path to ground and a risk of fire.a preliminary evaluation has been opened to assess the safety risks of the alleged defect. | ||||||
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM - BATTERY - CABLES | ||||||
| PE11031 | FREIGHTLINER LLC | 09/12/2011 | Body Battery Post Corrosion | |||
| Odi received a complaint regarding a corroded battery post located behind a service panel near the driver's seat on a 2006 thomas built c2 school bus.this corrosion is believed to have caused a fire on the vehicle.reviewing pictures of similar buses in the fleet, and an odi inspection of a second fleet, found significant corrosion is possible on these buses.this corrosion can create a path to ground and a risk of fire.a preliminary evaluation has been opened to assess the safety risks of the alleged defect. | ||||||
| SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC - FOUNDATION COMPONENTS - HOSES, LINES/PIPING, AND FITTINGS | ||||||
| PE11032 | FREIGHTLINER LLC | 09/12/2011 | Brake Line Chafing | |||
| Odi received a complaint alleging brake fluid loss caused by a ruptured brake line that had abraded against a wire harness in the engine compartment of the vehicle.upon review of subsequent pictures and discussion with daimler trucks north america (dtna) it was found that the ruptured rear brake line (p/n a12-21046-000) had contacted a fuel supply line.inspection of part a12-21046-000 on a second in-fleet bus found signs of chafing that if not repaired may have eventually resulted in rupture.ruptured brake lines can cause a loss of brake fluid increasing the stopping distance of a school bus in operation which could lead to a crash.a preliminary evaluation has been opened to determine the cause of the brake line failures and the risks resulting from the alleged defect. | ||||||
Consumer Complaints
| Fail date | miles | occurences | Purchase date |
|---|---|---|---|
| ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING - COOLING SYSTEM | |||
| 12/23/2009 | 29000 | 1 | |
| Transmission cooler in radiator leaked causing replacement of radiator. anti-freeze back flushed into the transmission causing contamination and transmission also needed to be replaced. total cost $5,751.00 to a bus two years old with 30,000 miles. *tr | |||
| EXTERIOR LIGHTING - BRAKE LIGHTS | |||
| 08/24/2007 | |||
| Tl*the contact owns a 2007 thomas built buses saf-t-liner c2 bus. while driving approximately 35 mph, the exterior rear brake light failed to illuminate when the brake pedal was depressed. the failure occurred intermittently. the contact received a recall notice for nhtsa campaign id number 06v205000 (parking brake:conventional:air) regarding the air manage unit. the vehicle was repaired, but the failure continued. the failure mileage was unavailable and the current mileage was 32,000. | |||
| PARKING BRAKE | |||
| 02/15/2011 | |||
| Thomas c2 - amu park brake switch, 2007-2008 year models problem: my office received reports from scde maintenance facilities of continued failures with the air brake interlock system air management unit (amu). the failure mode of current concern is with the park brake switch in the amu. this failure mode prevents the release of the park brakes. the scde operates 879 of these units. concern: when this type of failure occurs, the driver can no longer release the park brakes. school bus drivers are trained to set the park brakes each time they are loading/unloading students. in most cases there is no warning or intermittent failure. failures of this type leave the bus and students sitting in the middle of the road creating a very dangerous situation. the bus can not be moved from the roadway until a technician is dispatched to manually release the park brakes and allow the bus to move. the students must then be off loaded onto a spare bus before continuing the route. background: the amu was previously involved in safety recall fl538 a-b for the brake light switch module failure. we are now experiencing problems w/ failures on the park brake module. when this problem was brought to my attention, i had our staff pull installation information for the part numbers involved from all 45 maintenance facilities. to date our records indicate that we have experienced this type failure on 139 buses or 16% of the 879 units in our fleet. these units are identified in the attached excel file. | |||
| PARKING BRAKE - CONVENTIONAL - AIR | |||
| 08/24/2007 | |||
| Tl*the contact owns a 2007 thomas built buses saf-t-liner c2 bus. while driving approximately 35 mph, the exterior rear brake light failed to illuminate when the brake pedal was depressed. the failure occurred intermittently. the contact received a recall notice for nhtsa campaign id number 06v205000 (parking brake:conventional:air) regarding the air manage unit. the vehicle was repaired, but the failure continued. the failure mileage was unavailable and the current mileage was 32,000. | |||
| STRUCTURE | |||
| 09/02/2007 | 1 | ||
| Our thomas c-2 buses have student crossing mirrors that will not hold adjustment. the brackets continually break and the hood mounts pull out. the mirrors used are rosco haweye. *tr | |||
| VISIBILITY | |||
| 09/02/2007 | 1 | ||
| Our thomas c-2 buses have student crossing mirrors that will not hold adjustment. the brackets continually break and the hood mounts pull out. the mirrors used are rosco haweye. *tr | |||
| VISIBILITY - REARVIEW MIRRORS/DEVICES - EXTERIOR | |||
| 04/07/2007 | 438 | 1 | 11/01/2006 |
| Tl*the contact owns a 2007 thomas built c2. the passenger side mirror is defective and blocks the view of oncoming vehicles. the manufacturer stated that they could send a new bracket to place on the passenger side mirror that would eliminate the defect. the bracket would cost between $80 to $100. the engine size was unknown. the current mileage was 7,621 and failure mileage was 438. | |||
| VISIBILITY/WIPER | |||
| 01/30/2013 | 93924 | 1 | |
| Something broke the lower side dash window lt side. the glass is bonded to the frame with a rubber like substance. these are supposed to be tempered glass which normally break into small squares and are fairly harmless. this window broke into sharp stick like shards radiating around the fracture site at the top area where the glass was bonded to the frame. this is the first window break we have had on a c2 and we were alarmed at the failure of the glass to disintegrate into the usual small squares. does the bonding have something to do with the change in the pattern? *tr | |||
| 01/30/2013 | 93924 | ||
| Something broke the lower side sash window lt side. the glass is bonded to the frame with a rubber like substance. these are supposed to be tempered glass which normally break into small squares and are fairly harmless. this window broke into sharp stick like shards radiating around the fracture site at the top area where the glass was bonded to the frame. this is the first window break we have had on a c2 and we were alarmed at the failure of the glass to disintegrate into the usual small squares. does the bonding have something to do with the change in the pattern? | |||
Car dealers selling
| State | City | Zip | Name | Phone |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| GA | FOREST PARK | 30297 | ALTLANTA FRIEGHTLINER TRUCKS SALES INC | 404-366-8044 |