Tiffin Allegro Bay 2007

Model Allegro Bay made in 2007 by Tiffin got 11 consumer complains, 20 investigations there are 4 recalls as well as 6 service bulletins. Consumer complaints with reference to service brakes, hydraulic. . Technical service bulletines regarding equipment, equipment adaptive and latches/locks/linkages. The car had one investigation (service brakes, hydraulic). There were some recalls concerningequipment, exterior lighting and service brakes, hydraulic.

Model 2007

Recalls


CampaignManufacturerManufacturing dateType# of units affectedDate Owner notified MfgRecall Initiated byManufacturers of recalled vehicles/productsReport Recieved DateRecord Creation DateRegulation Part NumberFMVSS Number
EQUIPMENT - RECREATIONAL VEHICLE
08V509000TIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC. V (Vehicle)350702/24/2009ODITIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC.10/07/200810/03/2008
Defect SummaryTiffin is recalling 3,507 my 2004-2007 allegro, allegro bay and allero bus, my 2004-2005 phaeton and my 2005-2007 zephyr motor homes equipped with a two-door refrigerator manufactured by the dometic corporation. the refrigerator may have a defect in the boiler tube. pressurized coolant solution could be released into an area where an ignition source (gas flame) is present.
Consequence SummaryRelease of coolant under certain conditions could ignite and result in a fire.
Corrective SummaryTiffin will be working with dometic in order to repair these refrigerators (please see 08e032). dometic will repair these refrigerators by installing a secondary burn housing, a thermal fuse, and a melt fuse free of charge. dometic has retained stericycle inc. to manage this campaign. stericycle will assist the owner in locating dealerships or service centers and will provide assistance with scheduling of appointments. owners may contact dometic/stericycle at 1-888-446-5157 or tiffin at 256-356-8661.
NotesCustomers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov.
EXTERIOR LIGHTING - BRAKE LIGHTS - SWITCH
11V327000TIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC. V (Vehicle)1309ODITIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC.06/15/201106/16/2011
Defect SummaryTiffin motorhomes is recalling certain model year 2006-2010, allegro and allegro bay recreational vehicles, manufactured from january 2005, through april 2010, and built on a daimler/freightliner chassis. the brake lights may be intermittent during light brake applications.
Consequence SummaryThe brake lights may not illuminate consistently upon brake application and fail to properly indicate to a following vehicle that the motorhome has slowed or come to a stop, increasing the risk of a crash.
Corrective SummaryDaimler trucks (dtna), manufacturer of the chassis, will notify owners and repairs will be performed by dtna dealerships, free of charge. (see dtna's recall campaign 10v-178.) the manufacturer has not yet provided an owner notification schedule. owners may contact dtna at 1-800-547-0712.
NotesOwners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov .
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
12V327000TIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC. V (Vehicle)1304ODITIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC.06/19/201207/11/2012
Defect SummaryTiffin is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2010 allegro and allegro bay recreational vehicles equipped with bosch hydraulic brakes. hydraulic brake equipped motorhome chassis exposed to long periods of time of non-driving may experience diametrical brake caliper piston growth and reduced piston to bore clearance potentially leading to brake drag and overheating resulting in reduced brake performance.
Consequence SummaryReduced brake performance may lead to an increased risk of a crash.
Corrective SummaryTiffin will notify the owners, and authorized daimler trucks north america (dtna) dealers will inspect and, as necessary, replace the brake calipers free of charge. the safety recall is expected to begin on or before july 20, 2012. owners may contact dtna at 1-800-547-0712.
NotesCustomers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration
09V110000NAVISTAR, INC V (Vehicle)4887609/16/2010ODITIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC.04/03/200904/03/2009
Defect SummaryNavistar is recalling certain model year my 2001-2008 workhorse w20, w21 and w22 chassis and certain model year 2009 through 2011 monaco rv admiral, arista, monarch, and riptide recreational vehicles equipped with axles that include bosch zops or zoht pin slide hydraulic disc brakes. when combined with occasional or seasonal vehicle operation may experience calipers sticking in the applied position. this can result in abnormal heat generation at the wheel end causing brake drag. the driver would normally have warning of the brake drag if undetected by the driver.
Consequence SummaryThe temperature increase at the wheel end can eventually lead to soft pedal conditions due to brake fluid boil, and possible extended stopping distance increasing the risk of a crash.
Corrective SummaryWorkhorse dealers will replace all four bosch brake caliper assemblies free of charge. the safety recall began on september 16, 2010. owners may contact workhorse at 1-877-246-7731.
NotesWorkhorse recall no. 50901-c and 51101-c.owners may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov .

Bulletins


BulletinBulletin dateReplacement BulletinItem no.SummaryAdded
EQUIPMENT
SB-2103/18/200810026734Tiffin motorhomes: switch box grounding lug. the tap screw is not tight enough. this could cause problems at the load center causing a loss of ground. csc letter was received. *pe12/09/2008
EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE
SB-2103/18/200810026734Tiffin motorhomes: switch box grounding lug. the tap screw is not tight enough. this could cause problems at the load center causing a loss of ground. csc letter was received. *pe12/09/2008
EQUIPMENT - OTHER - OWNERS/SERVICE/OTHER MANUAL
SB-2103/18/200810026734Tiffin motorhomes: switch box grounding lug. the tap screw is not tight enough. this could cause problems at the load center causing a loss of ground. csc letter was received. *pe12/09/2008
EQUIPMENT - RECREATIONAL VEHICLE
SB-2103/18/200810026734Tiffin motorhomes: switch box grounding lug. the tap screw is not tight enough. this could cause problems at the load center causing a loss of ground. csc letter was received. *pe12/09/2008
EQUIPMENT - RECREATIONAL VEHICLE - LPG WATER HEATER
SB-2003/29/200810026736Tiffin motorhomes: there is a potential problem with the water heater by pass in your unit. there is a possibility it was incorrectly plumbed. csc letter was received. *pe12/10/2008
LATCHES/LOCKS/LINKAGES - DOORS - LATCH
1303/14/200710023174Tiffin motorhomes, inc. - pantry door lock. *nj10/31/2007

Investigations


NHTSA IDManufacturerDate openDate closeSubjectRecall campaign
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V327000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V280000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V242000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004TIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC.02/17/2012Diminished brake performance
 Odi has received two consumer complaints alleging diminished brake performance on subject vehicles:(1) voq 1044286 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2007 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes a significant loss of brake stopping-slowing performance and associated indications that the brakes had been subjected to excessively high temperatures as evidenced by odor and brake dust deposits.(2) voq 10442879 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2006 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes hot brakes requiring vigorous pumping to slow/stop the vehicle.odi is concerned that these reports may be associated with campaign 09v-110 conducted by navistar in april 2009.campaign 09v-110 addressed vehicles equipped with workhorse custom chasses and bosch disc brakes.vehicles equipped with similar brakes mounted to freightliner custom chasses (daimler truck north america) were not addressed by the campaign action at that time.the subject tiffin vehicles were manufactured on the referenced freightliner chasis.
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC - FOUNDATION COMPONENTS - DISC
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V242000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V327000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V280000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004TIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC.02/17/2012Diminished brake performance
 Odi has received two consumer complaints alleging diminished brake performance on subject vehicles:(1) voq 1044286 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2007 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes a significant loss of brake stopping-slowing performance and associated indications that the brakes had been subjected to excessively high temperatures as evidenced by odor and brake dust deposits.(2) voq 10442879 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2006 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes hot brakes requiring vigorous pumping to slow/stop the vehicle.odi is concerned that these reports may be associated with campaign 09v-110 conducted by navistar in april 2009.campaign 09v-110 addressed vehicles equipped with workhorse custom chasses and bosch disc brakes.vehicles equipped with similar brakes mounted to freightliner custom chasses (daimler truck north america) were not addressed by the campaign action at that time.the subject tiffin vehicles were manufactured on the referenced freightliner chasis.
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC - FOUNDATION COMPONENTS - DISC - CALIPER
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V327000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V280000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V242000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004TIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC.02/17/2012Diminished brake performance
 Odi has received two consumer complaints alleging diminished brake performance on subject vehicles:(1) voq 1044286 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2007 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes a significant loss of brake stopping-slowing performance and associated indications that the brakes had been subjected to excessively high temperatures as evidenced by odor and brake dust deposits.(2) voq 10442879 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2006 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes hot brakes requiring vigorous pumping to slow/stop the vehicle.odi is concerned that these reports may be associated with campaign 09v-110 conducted by navistar in april 2009.campaign 09v-110 addressed vehicles equipped with workhorse custom chasses and bosch disc brakes.vehicles equipped with similar brakes mounted to freightliner custom chasses (daimler truck north america) were not addressed by the campaign action at that time.the subject tiffin vehicles were manufactured on the referenced freightliner chasis.
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC - FOUNDATION COMPONENTS - DISC - PADS
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V242000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V280000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V327000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004TIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC.02/17/2012Diminished brake performance
 Odi has received two consumer complaints alleging diminished brake performance on subject vehicles:(1) voq 1044286 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2007 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes a significant loss of brake stopping-slowing performance and associated indications that the brakes had been subjected to excessively high temperatures as evidenced by odor and brake dust deposits.(2) voq 10442879 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2006 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes hot brakes requiring vigorous pumping to slow/stop the vehicle.odi is concerned that these reports may be associated with campaign 09v-110 conducted by navistar in april 2009.campaign 09v-110 addressed vehicles equipped with workhorse custom chasses and bosch disc brakes.vehicles equipped with similar brakes mounted to freightliner custom chasses (daimler truck north america) were not addressed by the campaign action at that time.the subject tiffin vehicles were manufactured on the referenced freightliner chasis.
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC - FOUNDATION COMPONENTS - DISC - ROTOR
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V242000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V280000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.02/17/201208/17/2012Diminished Brake Performance12V327000
 Daimler truck has issued 12v-242.see odi closing report for further details.the associated voqs are: 10442468, 10442861, 10442879, and 10454022 (model year 2008).
PE12004TIFFIN MOTORHOMES, INC.02/17/2012Diminished brake performance
 Odi has received two consumer complaints alleging diminished brake performance on subject vehicles:(1) voq 1044286 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2007 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes a significant loss of brake stopping-slowing performance and associated indications that the brakes had been subjected to excessively high temperatures as evidenced by odor and brake dust deposits.(2) voq 10442879 describes a brake malfunction that allegedly occurred in a my 2006 tiffin allegro bay recreational vehicle.the complaint describes hot brakes requiring vigorous pumping to slow/stop the vehicle.odi is concerned that these reports may be associated with campaign 09v-110 conducted by navistar in april 2009.campaign 09v-110 addressed vehicles equipped with workhorse custom chasses and bosch disc brakes.vehicles equipped with similar brakes mounted to freightliner custom chasses (daimler truck north america) were not addressed by the campaign action at that time.the subject tiffin vehicles were manufactured on the referenced freightliner chasis.

Consumer Complaints


Fail datemilesoccurencesPurchase date
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
01/05/201015000
 Had stopped for fuel after driving approximately 150 miles. smelled burning but walk around and observation found nothing. drove approximately 10 miles further and pushed brake pedal to stop. pedal went all the way to floor. pumping the brakes vigorously restored some braking. was able to finish trip (approximately 1 block further) driving very slowly until unit parked in storage lot. during this small distance vehicle felt like brake was locked on - as if emergency brake did not release. upon disembarking passenger outside tire was smoking and very hot.
01/02/201212300
 This is a 38' motorhome built on a freightliner front engine diesel chassis. this chassis has hydraulic brakes (not air brakes). brakes failed while exiting a freeway - narrowly avoiding a crash. returning home from a week away in an rv resort. stopped for fuel about 10 miles from home. noticed a smell of hot brakes, but nothing else unusual. did a complete walkaround after fueling - all normal. about 8 miles later, when exiting the freeway, the brake pedal went completely to the floor with no effect. the engine brake was engaged quickly and after some rapid pumping on the pedal, got enough brake effect that i could avoid a crash at the end of the ramp and made it safely to a place to stop and get off the road. upon walkaround, there was an extreme smell of hot brakes, heavy brake dust inside rear rims, and a puddle of hydraulic fluid (about 1 quart) under the master cylinder. note that there was no downhill or other extended braking prior. vehicle was parked overnight. after calling for a tow in the morning and returning to the coach, there was enough pedal to navigate the coach to a place accessible to the tow truck and it was towed to a freightliner service center. the service center found that there was obvious signs of overheating. rear abs sensors were melted from heat. pads and rotors destroyed. troubleshot system and found no problems other than apparently rear caliper pistons had stuck, causing brakes to drag, overheating the system, resulting in failure. upon posting my experience on a tiffin web site, i learned that there are dozens of coaches that have had same experience. freightliner knows about it - they instructed service center to use special grease to lube caliper (grease used for aircraft applications). apparently same brake calipers subject of recall in gm workhorse chassis for motorhomes. significant safety issue-lucky to avoid crash!