Blue Bird Wanderlodge M450 Lxi 2005
Model Wanderlodge M450 Lxi made in 2005 by Blue Bird got 6 consumer complains, 5 investigations there are 2 recalls as well as 5 service bulletins. Consumer complaints with reference, among others things, to electrical system, equipment and power train. Technical service bulletines regarding equipment, equipment adaptive and unknown or other. The car had some investigations: suspension, tires and wheels. There were some recalls concerningexterior lighting, power train.
Model 2005
Recalls
| Campaign | Manufacturer | Manufacturing date | Type | # of units affected | Date Owner notified Mfg | Recall Initiated by | Manufacturers of recalled vehicles/products | Report Recieved Date | Record Creation Date | Regulation Part Number | FMVSS Number | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EXTERIOR LIGHTING - BRAKE LIGHTS | ||||||||||||||||
| 05V044000 | BLUE BIRD BODY COMPANY | from 06/01/2004 to 01/31/2005 | V (Vehicle) | 22 | 02/02/2005 | MFR | BLUE BIRD BODY COMPANY | 02/08/2005 | 02/08/2005 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | On certain motor homes, a circuit design resulted in a 12.1 amp circuit draw in the brake light circuit when it is protected by a 10 amp circuit breaker. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | The current draw may cause the circuit breaker to fail resulting in a loss of brake lights with no warning to the driver before or after the fuse blows. a following driver may not know when the brakes have been applied, and a rear-end crash could occur without prior warning. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Dealers will modify the circuit to incorporate relays to reduce current draw in the fused circuit to less than 10 amperes. the recall began on february 2, 2005. owners may contact blue bird at 478-825-2021. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Blue bird recall no. r05jj.customers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration | |||||||||||||||
| POWER TRAIN - AXLE ASSEMBLY | ||||||||||||||||
| 07V586000 | BLUE BIRD BODY COMPANY | from 03/10/2004 to 09/27/2006 | V (Vehicle) | 58 | 03/14/2008 | MFR | BLUE BIRD BODY COMPANY | 12/20/2007 | 12/20/2007 | |||||||
| Defect Summary | On certain my 2005-2007 wanderlodge 450 lxi motor homes equipped with arvin meritor and trw tie rod ends, the tie rod assemblies were produced with steel tubing that did not meet design specifications which could result in failure of the tie rod assembly when coach mileage approaches or exceeds 100,000 miles. also the front axle curb weight may exceed the specified 16,000 pounds weight rating. | |||||||||||||||
| Consequence Summary | The existing tie rod assemblies may not perform as designed and may deform or fracture which may reduce steering control and could result in a vehicle crash. in addition, insufficient front tire inflation pressure reduces the weight rating of the front tires; and improper alignment of the front suspension can cause premature tire wear and subsequent degradation of the structural integrity of one or both of the front tires. | |||||||||||||||
| Corrective Summary | Dealers will replace the left and right hand front tie rod ends along with a certification label stating the correct weight limits. appropriate replacement tires will be provided and the front steering alignment will be checked and corrected, if necessary. new tire data decals will also be supplied. the recall began on march 14, 2008. owners may contact blue bird at 478-825-2021. | |||||||||||||||
| Notes | Blue bird recall no. r08mw.customers may also contact the national highway traffic safety administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov. | |||||||||||||||
Bulletins
| Bulletin | Bulletin date | Replacement Bulletin | Item no. | Summary | Added |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EQUIPMENT | |||||
| SB-S-06-KJ | 03/10/2006 | 10043189 | Blue bird: see document search button for owner letter. information provided regarding affected units with a potential for reduction in power to operate coach accessories if coach is not connected to shore power to have circuit boards re | 02/29/2012 | |
| EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE | |||||
| SB-S-06-KJ | 03/10/2006 | 10043189 | Blue bird: see document search button for owner letter. information provided regarding affected units with a potential for reduction in power to operate coach accessories if coach is not connected to shore power to have circuit boards re | 02/29/2012 | |
| EQUIPMENT - ELECTRICAL | |||||
| SB-S-06-KJ | 03/10/2006 | 10043189 | Blue bird: see document search button for owner letter. information provided regarding affected units with a potential for reduction in power to operate coach accessories if coach is not connected to shore power to have circuit boards re | 02/29/2012 | |
| EQUIPMENT - OTHER - OWNERS/SERVICE/OTHER MANUAL | |||||
| SU-S-0609 | 08/08/2006 | 10043250 | Blue bird: on certain model buses, procedure information is provided where by moisture must be purge from accessory air system. *pe | 03/06/2012 | |
| UNKNOWN OR OTHER | |||||
| SU-S-0609 | 08/08/2006 | 10043250 | Blue bird: on certain model buses, procedure information is provided where by moisture must be purge from accessory air system. *pe | 03/06/2012 | |
Investigations
| NHTSA ID | Manufacturer | Date open | Date close | Subject | Recall campaign | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SUSPENSION - FRONT | ||||||
| RQ08004 | BLUE BIRD BODY COMPANY | 06/24/2008 | 11/03/2008 | FRONT AXLE / TIRE OVERLOAD | ||
| Blue bird is implementing various weight reduction, weight redistribution , and capacity upgrade initiatives to improve thefront axle / tire over-load condition of the affected vehicles.odi is primarily concerned about blue bird's initiative to uprate the front tire by requiring owners to maintain 130 psi inflation pressure.in response to odi's concerns, blue bird will supplement their original remedy plan of providing new front tires and new tire certifcation labels specifying the 130 psi inflation requirement with intiatives to: (1) install an on-board tire inflation system capable of providing 130 psi; (2) install a placard on the dash panel as a ongoing reminder to owners of the need to maintain proper inflation pressure; and (3) investigating the possiblity of periodically reminding owners of the importance of maintaining specified tire pressure.odi remains generally concerned about front tires installed in motor homes because odi's experience has shown that motor home owners are frequenlty unable or unwilling to maintain high inflation pressures in their tires.see odi's closing report for additional observations / details regarding this. | ||||||
| TIRES | ||||||
| RQ08004 | BLUE BIRD BODY COMPANY | 06/24/2008 | 11/03/2008 | FRONT AXLE / TIRE OVERLOAD | ||
| Blue bird is implementing various weight reduction, weight redistribution , and capacity upgrade initiatives to improve thefront axle / tire over-load condition of the affected vehicles.odi is primarily concerned about blue bird's initiative to uprate the front tire by requiring owners to maintain 130 psi inflation pressure.in response to odi's concerns, blue bird will supplement their original remedy plan of providing new front tires and new tire certifcation labels specifying the 130 psi inflation requirement with intiatives to: (1) install an on-board tire inflation system capable of providing 130 psi; (2) install a placard on the dash panel as a ongoing reminder to owners of the need to maintain proper inflation pressure; and (3) investigating the possiblity of periodically reminding owners of the importance of maintaining specified tire pressure.odi remains generally concerned about front tires installed in motor homes because odi's experience has shown that motor home owners are frequenlty unable or unwilling to maintain high inflation pressures in their tires.see odi's closing report for additional observations / details regarding this. | ||||||
| DP09006 | BLUE BIRD BODY COMPANY | 11/30/2009 | ALLEGED INADEQUATE CAMPAIGN REMEDY | |||
| Owners whose vehicles havebeen remedied as prescribed by blue bird campaign 07v-586 have expressed dissatisfaction with the following issues: (1) remedied vehicles have diminished cargo capacity; (2) redeployed placement of generator in remedied vehiclesis inadequately ventilated; (3) vehicle weight (which exceeds the manufacturer's specifications); front axle being used in excess of its rating; incorrect weight specification; overweight; (4) the blue bird recommended 130 psi inflation pressure in front tires (is not recommended by michelin); (5) impractical weight and passenger restrictions; traveling with | ||||||
| TIRES - VALVE | ||||||
| RQ08004 | BLUE BIRD BODY COMPANY | 06/24/2008 | 11/03/2008 | FRONT AXLE / TIRE OVERLOAD | ||
| Blue bird is implementing various weight reduction, weight redistribution , and capacity upgrade initiatives to improve thefront axle / tire over-load condition of the affected vehicles.odi is primarily concerned about blue bird's initiative to uprate the front tire by requiring owners to maintain 130 psi inflation pressure.in response to odi's concerns, blue bird will supplement their original remedy plan of providing new front tires and new tire certifcation labels specifying the 130 psi inflation requirement with intiatives to: (1) install an on-board tire inflation system capable of providing 130 psi; (2) install a placard on the dash panel as a ongoing reminder to owners of the need to maintain proper inflation pressure; and (3) investigating the possiblity of periodically reminding owners of the importance of maintaining specified tire pressure.odi remains generally concerned about front tires installed in motor homes because odi's experience has shown that motor home owners are frequenlty unable or unwilling to maintain high inflation pressures in their tires.see odi's closing report for additional observations / details regarding this. | ||||||
| WHEELS | ||||||
| RQ08004 | BLUE BIRD BODY COMPANY | 06/24/2008 | 11/03/2008 | FRONT AXLE / TIRE OVERLOAD | ||
| Blue bird is implementing various weight reduction, weight redistribution , and capacity upgrade initiatives to improve thefront axle / tire over-load condition of the affected vehicles.odi is primarily concerned about blue bird's initiative to uprate the front tire by requiring owners to maintain 130 psi inflation pressure.in response to odi's concerns, blue bird will supplement their original remedy plan of providing new front tires and new tire certifcation labels specifying the 130 psi inflation requirement with intiatives to: (1) install an on-board tire inflation system capable of providing 130 psi; (2) install a placard on the dash panel as a ongoing reminder to owners of the need to maintain proper inflation pressure; and (3) investigating the possiblity of periodically reminding owners of the importance of maintaining specified tire pressure.odi remains generally concerned about front tires installed in motor homes because odi's experience has shown that motor home owners are frequenlty unable or unwilling to maintain high inflation pressures in their tires.see odi's closing report for additional observations / details regarding this. | ||||||
Consumer Complaints
| Fail date | miles | occurences | Purchase date |
|---|---|---|---|
| ELECTRICAL SYSTEM | |||
| 01/01/1901 | 1 | ||
| Petition for the incomplete, unsafe repairs and modification to the 2006 blue bird wanderlodge 450 lxi that are being done in an attempt to remedy the conditions for the nhtsa recall. *nj the consumer experienced other problems with the motor home such as; a fire in the dash, a burnt inverter, unsolved electrical problems, extensive hadley system problems and a slide out problem. the consumer stated the new restrictions blue bird wants to place on its owners with regards to weight in bays traveling with 1/4 water and passengers restrictions is unreasonable. the consumer stated he did not buy a motorhome with restrictions. | |||
| EQUIPMENT - RECREATIONAL VEHICLE | |||
| 01/01/1901 | 1 | ||
| Petition for the incomplete, unsafe repairs and modification to the 2006 blue bird wanderlodge 450 lxi that are being done in an attempt to remedy the conditions for the nhtsa recall. *nj the consumer experienced other problems with the motor home such as; a fire in the dash, a burnt inverter, unsolved electrical problems, extensive hadley system problems and a slide out problem. the consumer stated the new restrictions blue bird wants to place on its owners with regards to weight in bays traveling with 1/4 water and passengers restrictions is unreasonable. the consumer stated he did not buy a motorhome with restrictions. | |||
| POWER TRAIN - AXLE ASSEMBLY | |||
| 01/01/1901 | 1 | ||
| Petition for the incomplete, unsafe repairs and modification to the 2006 blue bird wanderlodge 450 lxi that are being done in an attempt to remedy the conditions for the nhtsa recall. *nj the consumer experienced other problems with the motor home such as; a fire in the dash, a burnt inverter, unsolved electrical problems, extensive hadley system problems and a slide out problem. the consumer stated the new restrictions blue bird wants to place on its owners with regards to weight in bays traveling with 1/4 water and passengers restrictions is unreasonable. the consumer stated he did not buy a motorhome with restrictions. | |||
| 09/02/2009 | 35000 | 1 | |
| This letter is an official complaint and should be considered a formal petition regarding the incomplete, unsafe repairs and modifications to the 2005 to 2007 blue bird wanderlodge 450 lxi that are being done in an attempt to remedy the conditions of the nhtsa recall. the original recall, 07v586000, indicated that the front axle on the 450 lxi could be overweight. blue bird stated in substance that its rv was overweight on the front axle without cargo but with the standard 4 passengers and full water (using pre-2008 definition of ccc). the tire safety factor was not an issue in the recall but surfaced with the later complaint. the tie rod weakness was not a cause of the recall but was a result of the need to increase the axle rating. (i.e. it was one of the remedies). the tie rods were safe at an axle load of 16,000 lbs and no tie rod recall would have occurred if the 16,000 lb. axle was sufficient as originally designed. the recall was based on the axle being in excess of its rating and the motorhome could not be safely used with reasonable loading and designed purpose of the vehicle. in doing the many levels of | |||
| STRUCTURE | |||
| 09/02/2009 | 35000 | 1 | |
| This letter is an official complaint and should be considered a formal petition regarding the incomplete, unsafe repairs and modifications to the 2005 to 2007 blue bird wanderlodge 450 lxi that are being done in an attempt to remedy the conditions of the nhtsa recall. the original recall, 07v586000, indicated that the front axle on the 450 lxi could be overweight. blue bird stated in substance that its rv was overweight on the front axle without cargo but with the standard 4 passengers and full water (using pre-2008 definition of ccc). the tire safety factor was not an issue in the recall but surfaced with the later complaint. the tie rod weakness was not a cause of the recall but was a result of the need to increase the axle rating. (i.e. it was one of the remedies). the tie rods were safe at an axle load of 16,000 lbs and no tie rod recall would have occurred if the 16,000 lb. axle was sufficient as originally designed. the recall was based on the axle being in excess of its rating and the motorhome could not be safely used with reasonable loading and designed purpose of the vehicle. in doing the many levels of | |||
| SUSPENSION - FRONT | |||
| 09/02/2009 | 35000 | 1 | |
| This letter is an official complaint and should be considered a formal petition regarding the incomplete, unsafe repairs and modifications to the 2005 to 2007 blue bird wanderlodge 450 lxi that are being done in an attempt to remedy the conditions of the nhtsa recall. the original recall, 07v586000, indicated that the front axle on the 450 lxi could be overweight. blue bird stated in substance that its rv was overweight on the front axle without cargo but with the standard 4 passengers and full water (using pre-2008 definition of ccc). the tire safety factor was not an issue in the recall but surfaced with the later complaint. the tie rod weakness was not a cause of the recall but was a result of the need to increase the axle rating. (i.e. it was one of the remedies). the tie rods were safe at an axle load of 16,000 lbs and no tie rod recall would have occurred if the 16,000 lb. axle was sufficient as originally designed. the recall was based on the axle being in excess of its rating and the motorhome could not be safely used with reasonable loading and designed purpose of the vehicle. in doing the many levels of | |||